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screen printing => Equipment => DIY - From master engineered marvels to cobbled together jury-rigged or Jerry-built junk! => Topic started by: ericheartsu on September 16, 2014, 10:28:21 AM

Title: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: ericheartsu on September 16, 2014, 10:28:21 AM
Are there any plans available for something like? Or anything that i should try and do while building one?
Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: tonypep on September 16, 2014, 10:54:09 AM
I have one. We call it the semi-automatic screen coater. Uses stainless l-bar and some knobs and uses a hydraulic cylinder from a hatchback found at auto supply store. It is awesome. I can't stand to see the "one hand on the screen the other on the coater" technique. Makes me nuts. Camera charging but I think Dave has seen it.
Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: jvanick on September 16, 2014, 10:56:32 AM
I just have 2 pieces of 3/4" x 3/4" wood screwed into a table and use that to lean the screens up against the wall in the screen room... has worked fine for the 4+ years that I've been using it.

never got used to doing a one-handed coat either.
Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: Orion on September 16, 2014, 11:23:11 AM
For those who require higher tolerance and consistency with the two handed method consider this: Picture an artists easel with aluminium construction. The top is wall mounted with a piece of aluminium angle iron that grips the top of the screen. The bottom has the same piece to catch the bottom of the screen. Attached to this piece is a hydraulic shock from an auto supply store. This holds the screen firmly in place and accommodates different frame sizes. Downward motion applied to the screen releases it. A quick flip and you now coat the other side.
These have been made. Some even have a swivel so you don't even have to release the screen to coat the other side.


click link for pic...


http://www.theshirtboard.com/index.php/topic,3570.msg55528.html#msg55528 (http://www.theshirtboard.com/index.php/topic,3570.msg55528.html#msg55528)
Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: blue moon on September 16, 2014, 11:27:53 AM
I just have 2 pieces of 3/4" x 3/4" wood screwed into a table and use that to lean the screens up against the wall in the screen room... has worked fine for the 4+ years that I've been using it.

never got used to doing a one-handed coat either.

similar to this, 2x4 on the table with stops (screws) on the side and a block on the wall for the screen to rest against. . .

pierre
Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: KevWilso on September 16, 2014, 11:31:57 AM
http://www.vastex.com/Literature/C-100%20Flyer-NP.pdf (http://www.vastex.com/Literature/C-100%20Flyer-NP.pdf)

Vastex just came out with a new one like a week ago.  I haven't seen it in person yet though.  Looks pretty nice.
Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: ebscreen on September 16, 2014, 11:36:14 AM
We have a Saati one. It's nice, adjustable, I'll try and get  a pic later. Not much to it in terms of fabrication.
Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: Denis Kolar on September 16, 2014, 11:42:36 AM
(http://www.silkscreeningsupplies.com/files/799934/uploaded/CRW_1741.jpg)
(http://www.ryonet.net/downloads/screencoatingstand.jpg)
(http://nukicks.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/equipment/screen_coating_stand.jpg)

Just build yours, do not buy it :)
Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: tonypep on September 16, 2014, 11:43:08 AM
Thanks Orion there it is. Hydraulic shock is mounted to bottom screen holder. Do not need to adjust for screen frame sizes. Just height of person coating.
Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: jvanick on September 16, 2014, 11:47:01 AM
Here's ours... I personally don't like the ones that only hold the screen at the bottom.. too much flex in the screen and you don't get a consistent coating.

(http://www.oaknet.com/gallery/var/resizes/Screen-Printing/IMG_7079.jpg?m=1410882265)

(http://www.oaknet.com/gallery/var/resizes/Screen-Printing/IMG_7078.jpg?m=1410882265)

please no comments on the emulsion drips all over the place... we've gotten a LOT cleaner than we were when we started... :)
Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: mimosatexas on September 16, 2014, 11:48:56 AM
I'll post mine soon, it uses a spring loaded bottom with a top stop.  Fits anything from 20x24 to 48x56, wall mounted.

edit:  It's kind of similar to the Vastex unit, or maybe like a hybrid of the vastex one and the one tony linked.
Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: ericheartsu on September 16, 2014, 12:03:37 PM
wow thanks all! I need to build one next week!

I thought i had this one handed screen coating method mastered....but i'm very quickly finding out that it's all just make believe!
Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: jsheridan on September 16, 2014, 12:22:29 PM
just a couple pieces of 2x4 I had laying around

Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: tonypep on September 16, 2014, 12:27:06 PM
All good. I prefer the shock version on mine or the Vastex spring load but anything that gets you to two handed coating is better. Especially for those concerned with EOM
Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on September 16, 2014, 12:36:56 PM
[url]http://www.vastex.com/Literature/C-100%20Flyer-NP.pdf[/url] ([url]http://www.vastex.com/Literature/C-100%20Flyer-NP.pdf[/url])

Vastex just came out with a new one like a week ago.  I haven't seen it in person yet though.  Looks pretty nice.

What does one of these cost? I am actually going to be enclosing our "dark room" and want to get more efficient in there and not break my back coating.
Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: bimmridder on September 16, 2014, 12:51:38 PM
I had one made similar to Tony's (years ago) but was spring loaded on the bottom. Angle iron on top and bottom to hold

Auto coater now  ::)
Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: KevWilso on September 16, 2014, 01:09:52 PM
[url]http://www.vastex.com/Literature/C-100%20Flyer-NP.pdf[/url] ([url]http://www.vastex.com/Literature/C-100%20Flyer-NP.pdf[/url])

Vastex just came out with a new one like a week ago.  I haven't seen it in person yet though.  Looks pretty nice.

What does one of these cost? I am actually going to be enclosing our "dark room" and want to get more efficient in there and not break my back coating.


$299.00 for the wall mount version, add $125.00 for the stand if you want it.
Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: Frog on September 16, 2014, 01:12:10 PM
Does that flip and rotate?
Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: ebscreen on September 16, 2014, 01:32:16 PM
Backlight it and you've got a place to inspect and tape screens as well.
Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: KevWilso on September 16, 2014, 01:34:00 PM
Does that flip and rotate?

You have to flip the screen manually.
Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: Frog on September 16, 2014, 01:43:01 PM
Binky, get on it! I see it in my head should be pretty simple for a guy like you to make tow pivot points, each with a locking pin. The way I see it, once the screen is locked in, it should stay locked in until you're done coating.


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Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on September 16, 2014, 01:45:08 PM
Combine it with backlighting and an FPU and we are in business!
Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: Gilligan on September 16, 2014, 08:04:36 PM
Combine it with backlighting and an FPU and we are in business!

Yeah, Brian and foot pedal activated... Fits in tight spaces (that was redundant for me to say a that huh?) I'll buy one! ;)
Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: Binkspot on September 16, 2014, 09:13:21 PM
Your gowing to laugh but Tony posted a picture of one a while back, then seen Saati's. I half assed built one with a spring loaded clamp you would release with your foot. Had idea for an auto clam one with an air cylinder. Then I found coating with one hand and a 5 gallon bucket was a whole lot faster and easier. It has since been taken apart and used for other "gadgets".
Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: GaryG on September 16, 2014, 09:24:26 PM
If you have time, make one, but-

coating with one hand and a 5 gallon bucket was a whole lot faster and easier.

Can be very consistent this way, otherwise larger than a normal auto screen I would say needs stabilization.
Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: Binkspot on September 16, 2014, 09:28:39 PM
25x36 are my limit, the few larger ones we have I lean against the wall.
Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: Orion on September 16, 2014, 10:37:55 PM
This guy...

http://dynamicdesignsinc.com/2012/10/coating-an-all-over-frame/#.VBjyCfldWQA (http://dynamicdesignsinc.com/2012/10/coating-an-all-over-frame/#.VBjyCfldWQA)

Title: Re: anyone ever built a screen holder for emulsioning?
Post by: Gilligan on September 16, 2014, 11:41:09 PM
This guy...

[url]http://dynamicdesignsinc.com/2012/10/coating-an-all-over-frame/#.VBjyCfldWQA[/url] ([url]http://dynamicdesignsinc.com/2012/10/coating-an-all-over-frame/#.VBjyCfldWQA[/url])



So what you are trying to say is, don't be a pussy.