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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: ZooCity on October 08, 2014, 06:02:41 PM

Title: Air Conditioners for on press cooling
Post by: ZooCity on October 08, 2014, 06:02:41 PM
For the life of me I can't find a post with one but I've seen a bunch of y'all post pics of some units that I thought looked like a blower fan / AC combo.  Basically something you could easily aim onto the platen of a cool down station or between a plasti screen and the platens for cooling.

Seeing a need for 1 or 2 of these in our shop for spot cooling either on tricky revolve print runs on the smaller presses in hot weather or just keeping the crew a little happier when needed.   Wanted to buy them in the off season here.
Title: Re: Air Conditioners for on press cooling
Post by: Gilligan on October 08, 2014, 06:23:41 PM
You mean like the flash backs use?
Title: Re: Air Conditioners for on press cooling
Post by: ebscreen on October 08, 2014, 06:27:15 PM
I think he's referring to those things that you mentioned they use on the oil industry. I want to say Porta Cool but that's not it.
Title: Re: Air Conditioners for on press cooling
Post by: Gilligan on October 08, 2014, 06:33:08 PM
I think he's referring to those things that you mentioned they use on the oil industry. I want to say Porta Cool but that's not it.

Bit under the weather here... refresh me... what the waggle you talking about. ;)
Title: Re: Air Conditioners for on press cooling
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on October 08, 2014, 06:43:59 PM
Something like these?
http://www.cleanfreak.com/cardry1.htm (http://www.cleanfreak.com/cardry1.htm)
Title: Re: Air Conditioners for on press cooling
Post by: cbjamel on October 08, 2014, 06:50:22 PM
Rig a box fan in wood frame to use in a head.
Works good.
Shane
Title: Re: Air Conditioners for on press cooling
Post by: ericheartsu on October 08, 2014, 06:58:58 PM
http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/hvac/air-conditioning/portable/portableairconditioners-spotcooler-etl-approved-796000 (http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/hvac/air-conditioning/portable/portableairconditioners-spotcooler-etl-approved-796000)

we use these for our employees
Title: Re: Air Conditioners for on press cooling
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on October 08, 2014, 07:11:37 PM
[url]http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/hvac/air-conditioning/portable/portableairconditioners-spotcooler-etl-approved-796000[/url] ([url]http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/hvac/air-conditioning/portable/portableairconditioners-spotcooler-etl-approved-796000[/url])

we use these for our employees

Still want to try one of those. Been waiting to see if they would go on sale. We are at the end of our hot season now though. Low 90s high 80s for us now which is bearable.
Title: Re: Air Conditioners for on press cooling
Post by: ebscreen on October 08, 2014, 07:24:37 PM
I think he's referring to those things that you mentioned they use on the oil industry. I want to say Porta Cool but that's not it.

Bit under the weather here... refresh me... what the waggle you talking about. ;)

You and me both, I think I caught the ebola.

Expect a pizza party soon.
Title: Re: Air Conditioners for on press cooling
Post by: Gilligan on October 08, 2014, 07:27:22 PM
LOL... just find a buyer for my MSP 3140 so I can get me an LED unit! :)
Title: Re: Air Conditioners for on press cooling
Post by: ZooCity on October 08, 2014, 08:28:09 PM
[url]http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/hvac/air-conditioning/portable/portableairconditioners-spotcooler-etl-approved-796000[/url] ([url]http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/hvac/air-conditioning/portable/portableairconditioners-spotcooler-etl-approved-796000[/url])

we use these for our employees


Those looks about perfect, thx!  Do you use these on a cart and wheel up to a head?  I couldn't quite tell which way the fan blows out. I like that you can divert or duct out the heat too.

We have big arse pedestal fans and a gaggle of box fans on carts for regular cooling.  Heck, we even have a kool mist that I need to get off my own arse and hookup and set procedures for. 

These I want for the odd revolve on the 6 color machine with fleece and big plasti prints.  On our hottest days with a couple presses running with flashes the whole shop temp can be enough to frustrate after flash cooling to the point where more than a fan is needed.  Blowing around 95˚ air just isn't enough in those cases if you are moving faster on the press. The jobbies Eric posted should be a band aid for those times and I think running select jobs on the larger press with more cool down heads would also help.

When not needed on the press to cool I'd like to have a couple just to keep the crew cool enough to think straight too. 
Title: Re: Air Conditioners for on press cooling
Post by: Gilligan on October 08, 2014, 09:20:36 PM
On spot these are cool... to cool a room, useless.
Title: Re: Air Conditioners for on press cooling
Post by: ericheartsu on October 08, 2014, 09:35:59 PM
[url]http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/hvac/air-conditioning/portable/portableairconditioners-spotcooler-etl-approved-796000[/url] ([url]http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/hvac/air-conditioning/portable/portableairconditioners-spotcooler-etl-approved-796000[/url])

we use these for our employees


Those looks about perfect, thx!  Do you use these on a cart and wheel up to a head?  I couldn't quite tell which way the fan blows out. I like that you can divert or duct out the heat too.

We have big arse pedestal fans and a gaggle of box fans on carts for regular cooling.  Heck, we even have a kool mist that I need to get off my own arse and hookup and set procedures for. 

These I want for the odd revolve on the 6 color machine with fleece and big plasti prints.  On our hottest days with a couple presses running with flashes the whole shop temp can be enough to frustrate after flash cooling to the point where more than a fan is needed.  Blowing around 95˚ air just isn't enough in those cases if you are moving faster on the press. The jobbies Eric posted should be a band aid for those times and I think running select jobs on the larger press with more cool down heads would also help.

When not needed on the press to cool I'd like to have a couple just to keep the crew cool enough to think straight too.


Even though this summer was mild they are a nice little thanks to our employees for braving the heat. It's really nice to have a spot of refreshing air hit you, when all you have around you is fans blowing hot air around.

We don't use them on press at all, but each employee has one, and they wheel it over to their station, wherever they are working.

The only bad thing about these, is the cord is like 4ft long. We had to build extension cords for every one.
Title: Re: Air Conditioners for on press cooling
Post by: TCT on October 08, 2014, 10:24:09 PM
Here is what we use-
 http://m.harborfreight.com/3-speed-portable-blower-69721.html (http://m.harborfreight.com/3-speed-portable-blower-69721.html)

And

 http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200329632_200329632?cm_mmc=Google-pla-_-Fans-_-Blowers-_-250751&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=250751&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=250751&gclid=CjwKEAjwwdOhBRCG0fPrlfO1gGUSJAC1FmHXnRZuxvsEkw1519WtwevULx7pJ3NaRiUXgR1rSD941RoC-VTw_wcB (http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200329632_200329632?cm_mmc=Google-pla-_-Fans-_-Blowers-_-250751&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=250751&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=250751&gclid=CjwKEAjwwdOhBRCG0fPrlfO1gGUSJAC1FmHXnRZuxvsEkw1519WtwevULx7pJ3NaRiUXgR1rSD941RoC-VTw_wcB)
Title: Re: Air Conditioners for on press cooling
Post by: Gilligan on October 08, 2014, 10:54:23 PM
I'd say, don't dick around... Get the best if you want something like those.

King Air
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Y-xDnJUaAsM/VAt5d61yq5I/AAAAAAAAZG0/6IfDnWLS0iQ/s1600/I%2Bjust%2Bcame%2Bby%2Bto%2Bsee.jpg (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Y-xDnJUaAsM/VAt5d61yq5I/AAAAAAAAZG0/6IfDnWLS0iQ/s1600/I%2Bjust%2Bcame%2Bby%2Bto%2Bsee.jpg)
Title: Re: Air Conditioners for on press cooling
Post by: Admiral on October 09, 2014, 12:15:21 AM
We installed a 3 foot exhaust fan just a few months ago, works great to keep the air fresh and the place about 10 degrees cooler.

On the presses we have compressor air that can be aimed at the operator to cool them off.  Those 2 things work pretty well to make it very manageable year round.  Higher ceilings are nice too.
Title: Re: Air Conditioners for on press cooling
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on October 09, 2014, 12:18:53 AM
Anyone have a big ass fan? Seems to dang pricey to me for a cieling fan.
Title: Re: Air Conditioners for on press cooling
Post by: Gilligan on October 09, 2014, 01:09:36 AM
I've been in a few shops that use them around here, they all seem to really like them.
Title: Re: Air Conditioners for on press cooling
Post by: GraphicDisorder on October 09, 2014, 06:09:29 AM
Anyone have a big ass fan? Seems to dang pricey to me for a cieling fan.

They quoted us 7,500 for one for our shop.  Hmm ill pass. 
Title: Re: Air Conditioners for on press cooling
Post by: GaryG on October 09, 2014, 10:53:39 AM
Yeah my wife got me a very cool large coffee mug with their log on it! Nice~

I told the guy, give me some ammo of case studies on how they save heating
for my bean counter. They can save quite a bit (up to 30%) on rooms with high ceilings.
Once doing some work on the ceiling in our 20' room, the temp up there was staggering,
while thermostat level was only at 70.

Still out of reach for a lot of us, but way cool, pardon the pun.

I'm still wondering why there aren't more print head saving coolers out there.
Title: Re: Air Conditioners for on press cooling
Post by: alan802 on October 09, 2014, 10:59:49 AM
We have these out back, one pointed on the loader, one on the unloader and a regular window unit air conditioner on the catcher.  Using these on press would be possible but they're a little lower than the pallets and would need to be raised up a foot or so to point to the top of the pallet.

http://www.lowes.com/pd_416710-37374-416710_0__?productId=4574782&cm_mmc=SCE_PLA-_-SeasonalLiving-_-AirConditioners-_-4574782&CAWELAID=320011480000707032&kpid=4574782&CAGPSPN=pla&k_clickID=2e21c543-0e6e-ee28-db9b-00003b4c3821&kpid=4574782 (http://www.lowes.com/pd_416710-37374-416710_0__?productId=4574782&cm_mmc=SCE_PLA-_-SeasonalLiving-_-AirConditioners-_-4574782&CAWELAID=320011480000707032&kpid=4574782&CAGPSPN=pla&k_clickID=2e21c543-0e6e-ee28-db9b-00003b4c3821&kpid=4574782)
Title: Re: Air Conditioners for on press cooling
Post by: tancehughes on October 09, 2014, 06:06:08 PM
If anyone is interested in buying a port a cool let me know I have one for sale. It's the jetstream 2400 model


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