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screen printing => Waterbase and Discharge => Topic started by: Doug S on October 12, 2014, 07:36:26 PM

Title: creating a gray discharge?
Post by: Doug S on October 12, 2014, 07:36:26 PM
Anybody got any tips for mixing gray discharge?  I thought you could just mix a little white and black pigment together, throw it in some base and bam there would be gray on a black gildan, instead I ended up with a gray/greenish look.   I could be doing something else wrong but I just can't nail a gray.

I'd appreciate any help I can get.
Title: Re: creating a gray discharge?
Post by: mimosatexas on October 12, 2014, 08:07:28 PM
I always just run clear base with a little black pigment
Title: Re: creating a gray discharge?
Post by: Doug S on October 13, 2014, 07:42:10 AM
I always just run clear base with a little black pigment

I appreciate that.  I'll give it a shot today. 
Title: Re: creating a gray discharge?
Post by: IntegrityShirts on October 13, 2014, 08:04:45 AM
Yep clear base with black pigment, but a lot more black pigment than you think you'll need. You have to test test test. I was trying to get a medium gray on a charcoal shirt last week and kept getting almost white on the shirt out of the dryer. I scraped it, added another drop or two of black pigment, tried again, same thing. I ended up dropping in about 40-50 grams of RFU black wb ink (total ink weight about 200grams). Cuts the discharge level down and achieves the same result.

In the cup though it looks like black ink!
Title: Re: creating a gray discharge?
Post by: jvanick on October 13, 2014, 08:07:27 AM
if you're using a mixing system, I find that 90% of the time (depending on fabrics) the pantone 'Cool Gray' mixes work great and match the intensity/level of the original pantone book color swatch.  Makes for a nice, consistent way to get your grays.
Title: Re: creating a gray discharge?
Post by: dirkdiggler on October 13, 2014, 08:12:11 AM
if you're using a mixing system, I find that 90% of the time (depending on fabrics) the pantone 'Cool Gray' mixes work great and match the intensity/level of the original pantone book color swatch.  Makes for a nice, consistent way to get your grays.

same here.
Title: Re: creating a gray discharge?
Post by: Doug S on October 13, 2014, 08:55:34 AM
I appreciate everyones help.  That's why you gotta love this board.  I just hope that one day I can return the favor.
Title: Re: creating a gray discharge?
Post by: kingscreen on October 13, 2014, 09:44:43 AM
What system are you using? We use CCI for both base and pigments. We have formulas for the full Cool Grey range.
We use a D-Base/D-White mixture plus Blue 072 and Black pigment.
Title: Re: creating a gray discharge?
Post by: IntegrityShirts on October 13, 2014, 09:53:29 AM
if you're using a mixing system, I find that 90% of the time (depending on fabrics) the pantone 'Cool Gray' mixes work great and match the intensity/level of the original pantone book color swatch.  Makes for a nice, consistent way to get your grays.

Yeah I have a mixing system and didn't use it because I thought I could just whip up a gray haha yeah won't try that again. I'll mix a cool gray like you suggest, thanks!
Title: Re: creating a gray discharge?
Post by: Doug S on October 13, 2014, 10:44:12 AM
What system are you using? We use CCI for both base and pigments. We have formulas for the full Cool Grey range.
We use a D-Base/D-White mixture plus Blue 072 and Black pigment.

My bad, I'm using CCI but no mixing system other than a scale and a little guessing.
Title: Re: creating a gray discharge?
Post by: jvanick on October 13, 2014, 11:42:32 AM
if you're using CCI's pigments, you can download their mixing software...

Title: Re: creating a gray discharge?
Post by: Doug S on October 13, 2014, 09:51:42 PM
if you're using CCI's pigments, you can download their mixing software...



Very helpful, now I just have to get a scale that will measure partial grams.  Always needing something else. lol