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screen printing => General Screen Printing => Topic started by: Maxie on October 16, 2014, 01:47:52 AM

Title: Water Based Adhesive and sweatshirts
Post by: Maxie on October 16, 2014, 01:47:52 AM
I recently switched to water based adhesive and it's great for T shirts, much cleaner and cheaper.
Problem is that is doesn't work well with sweatshirts.       I am thinking of getting a thin sheet of aluminum the size of the printing board and trying to get this to stick to the WB adhesive and then putting a suitable spray glue onto this for the sweatshirts.       After printing I can remove the aluminum sheet and carry on using the board with the WB adhesive.
Has anybody tried this?
Title: Re: Water Based Adhesive and sweatshirts
Post by: Screened Gear on October 16, 2014, 01:57:24 AM
I wouldn't do that. I don't do a ton of fleece here but when I do I just use mist type cans. Have to apply it every other fleece. Then when done I just reapply the water base adhesive. There is some build up of lint but if you apply the waterbase tack softly it will do fine. I don't change my pallet tape very often. As long as the lint build up is flat then shirts still print fine.

If you want to try another way just laydown a new layer of pallet tape before using the spray tack. Then remove it when your done.
Title: Re: Water Based Adhesive and sweatshirts
Post by: Rockers on October 16, 2014, 02:44:54 AM
Both CCI and Chromaline have a waterbased glue for sweaters and fleece. Not a magic bullet but for sure better then the basic waterbased glue for tees.
Title: Re: Water Based Adhesive and sweatshirts
Post by: Get Shirts on October 16, 2014, 06:59:52 AM
I second the pallet tape method.
Title: Re: Water Based Adhesive and sweatshirts
Post by: TCT on October 16, 2014, 07:41:27 AM
We use web spray for fleece and just replace the pallet tape after. Sure would love to find a good wb adhesive for fleece though!
Title: Re: Water Based Adhesive and sweatshirts
Post by: jsheridan on October 16, 2014, 09:32:47 AM
nothing but web for sweats.

Title: Re: Water Based Adhesive and sweatshirts
Post by: cleveprint on October 16, 2014, 12:16:20 PM
in the process of running 850 crewneck sweats right now. brought in a case of web the other day. sweatshirt season is here in Cleveland (along with ebola season). we go through the web like crazy. it works the best for sure.
Title: Re: Water Based Adhesive and sweatshirts
Post by: Shanarchy on October 16, 2014, 10:36:47 PM
We use web spray for fleece and just replace the pallet tape after. Sure would love to find a good wb adhesive for fleece though!

This.


I'll have to try the CCI and Chromaline stuff.
Title: Re: Water Based Adhesive and sweatshirts
Post by: Jwcontractscreen on October 31, 2014, 07:48:02 PM
We ran 1000 6 color sweats last week I bought a case of web adhesive and only went thru 2 cans of web. I was very surprised.
Title: Re: Water Based Adhesive and sweatshirts
Post by: mooseman on October 31, 2014, 08:44:08 PM
we are small manual printes. We do not print 100's of items at a time.
I absolutely hate it when i ruin a hoodie trying to PFP white ink on a dark hoodie because it shrunk under the flash or stretched toward the bottom of a large print so the second print is off, or registration on colors goes to hell.

I know some will beat me up on this because it takes time and effort but I HATE RUINING HOODIES and no one is around when it all goes wrong to bail my a$$ out
soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.......................
When we print sweatshirts / hoodies this is what we do....
we use WB tekbond
1 clean the pallets, get rid of all the fuzz / lint
2  add a new coating of WB, ours is cut 50/50 with water, we put a heavy coat down
3 flash dry the new stuff
4 test it ...if you can trap rats you are good to go.
5 load your fleece but do not stick it down yet
6 run the shirt under the flash to pre-heat affect it, 50/50 will shrink the material some do that before the see ink
7 set the shirts on the tac and run your hand all over the fleece to insure it is stuck down
8 print your stuff
9 flash again to lighten the grip, pull the shirt immediately after the flash
10 go back to step one.......start over

when you are all done pallets will be too sticky for tees
dust your pallets with some baby powder an brush it off with a stiff brush like a wall paper brush or scrub brush.
This will really reduce the grip of the tac....go back to printing tee shirts all day

mooseman
Title: Re: Water Based Adhesive and sweatshirts
Post by: GaryG on October 31, 2014, 10:28:19 PM
4 test it ...if you can trap rats you are good to go.
mooseman

hahahahahahahahahah!

I hate printing hoodies too.
We have done 900 at once and the specific "Flash tack" does well for us.
Messy, but H20 for everything else.
Title: Re: Water Based Adhesive and sweatshirts
Post by: gtmfg on November 01, 2014, 12:09:00 AM
Nothing but CCI web here. Stuff works awesome
Title: Re: Water Based Adhesive and sweatshirts
Post by: dirkdiggler on November 01, 2014, 08:38:20 AM
Wilflex Hot tak.  and only that!
Title: Re: Water Based Adhesive and sweatshirts
Post by: Homer on November 01, 2014, 09:55:58 AM
Wilflex Hot tak.  and only that!

you mentioned that before for hoodies...I gotta give it a shot. it chaps my ass to watch the guys peel pallet tape in the middle of a print run because they are switching from hoodies to t's.


we use the web stuff now, it's ok but once in a while if you over spray, you get the strings hanging off the platen edges and it gets right on the shirt...mist glue is evil.
Title: Re: Water Based Adhesive and sweatshirts
Post by: Frog on November 01, 2014, 10:05:12 AM
Wilflex Hot tak.  and only that!

you mentioned that before for hoodies...I gotta give it a shot. it chaps my ass to watch the guys peel pallet tape in the middle of a print run because they are switching from hoodies to t's.


we use the web stuff now, it's ok but once in a while if you over spray, you get the strings hanging off the platen edges and it gets right on the shirt...mist glue is evil.

C'mon Homie, if ya gotta spray, at least use a cardboard mask to keep it neat.

(And, have we given up on our shipping issue?)