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screen printing => General Screen Printing => Topic started by: tonypep on November 19, 2014, 07:38:30 AM

Title: Another way to do it
Post by: tonypep on November 19, 2014, 07:38:30 AM
What many do not know
Title: Re: Another way to do it
Post by: bimmridder on November 19, 2014, 07:53:36 AM
Tony, do you have video of it. I've seen it and it's crazy.
Title: Re: Another way to do it
Post by: tonypep on November 19, 2014, 08:03:36 AM
Sorry Dave no. This is obviously an empty factory I believe early hours before production. Then its literally a Chinese Fire Drill. Been doing it this way for decades and still do.
 Labor=cheap, Autos=expensive.
Title: Re: Another way to do it
Post by: bimmridder on November 19, 2014, 08:08:40 AM
I saw one like this. Not as fancy. Take your wood frame, print a piece, move to the next one, on down the line. crazy fast too.

On another note, and I RARELY get to say this....it's "warmer" here this morning than there.   :o
Title: Re: Another way to do it
Post by: Itsa Little CrOoked on November 19, 2014, 08:20:20 AM
YouTube search: "Table Screen Printing" and you'll see this and "A-Frame" styled setups.

I did it last night, coincidentally.
Title: Re: Another way to do it
Post by: tonypep on November 19, 2014, 08:23:22 AM
Takes eight people to print eight colors plus an unloader/loader behind them. They also have some interesting curing methods. Pretty darn clever actually.
Title: Re: Another way to do it
Post by: Itsa Little CrOoked on November 19, 2014, 08:48:12 AM
So far, I've only seen it done on pre-sewn goods, not Tees. But I'm still new to the idea.

Fascinating.

I'd assumed the travelling heat panels I've seen were merely flash units, Tony. Maybe they CAN do a full cure?
Title: Re: Another way to do it
Post by: Gilligan on November 19, 2014, 08:53:36 AM
They do full cures with them as well.
Title: Re: Another way to do it
Post by: Itsa Little CrOoked on November 19, 2014, 08:59:00 AM
They do full cures with them as well.

Makes a lot more sense....
Title: Re: Another way to do it
Post by: tonypep on November 19, 2014, 09:06:26 AM
This is part of one of many facilities. Many acres in size. Knitting/cutting department/decorating departments/sewing/finishing. Pretty much nothing like its done here. Back in the day we decorated similarly with huge belt printers which automated the process but it proved too costly and it went back to offshore table printing.
Title: Re: Another way to do it
Post by: Underbase37 on November 19, 2014, 09:35:52 AM
Few years back I looked into this a bit & found some blueprints on the interweb, very simple build & the screens set into place with pin & rivet system. Pretty simple idea, but cool nun the less.

Murphy37
Title: Re: Another way to do it
Post by: 3Deep on November 19, 2014, 10:33:54 AM
Doing so much with so little, I just got thru taking with my wife about doing so much with what you got, no fancy press, using sunlight to expose screens, no 40 n newman frames, s mesh, just plain old screen printing, but I'm sure some sez it can't be done that way LOL. I would love to walk in one of those factories and watch them work.

darryl
Title: Re: Another way to do it
Post by: tonypep on November 19, 2014, 11:04:59 AM
BTW Some of these factories are producing high end couture $50-$70 retail. You should see them hand apply Swarovsky rhinestones
Title: Re: Another way to do it
Post by: kingscreen on November 19, 2014, 03:49:58 PM
You should see them hand apply Swarovsky rhinestones

 :o
Title: Re: Another way to do it
Post by: tonypep on November 21, 2014, 07:40:32 AM
They work hard over there so this is occasionally allowed
Title: Re: Another way to do it
Post by: tonypep on November 21, 2014, 08:11:43 AM
They do this as well
Title: Re: Another way to do it
Post by: Underbase37 on November 21, 2014, 10:09:34 AM
They work hard over there so this is occasionally allowed
The guy in this pic has that look like WTF, I'm going to smack this chick upside the head & yell "get back to work".

Murphy37

Title: Re: Another way to do it
Post by: ScreenFoo on November 21, 2014, 10:38:13 AM
There used to be a lot of interesting line table vids, not so many these days for some reason.

This one is pretty neat, check out the robotic quartz unit:
http://youtu.be/IQnLGB0YqQs (http://youtu.be/IQnLGB0YqQs)
Title: Re: Another way to do it
Post by: Frog on November 21, 2014, 10:55:29 AM
There used to be a lot of interesting line table vids, not so many these days for some reason.

This one is pretty neat, check out the robotic quartz unit:
[url]http://youtu.be/IQnLGB0YqQs[/url] ([url]http://youtu.be/IQnLGB0YqQs[/url])


I like the way the printer just shoved the dryer past a few shirts, apparently not minding that they didn't get flashed, but then again, that end hadn't gotten dried yet before the second hit. Oh well, I'm sure he knows what he is doing. Obviously not just some Mickey Mouse operation. :P

Title: Re: Another way to do it
Post by: ScreenFoo on November 21, 2014, 10:56:43 AM
Actually, I was thinking that at first, and then I realized it's pretty likely that's not plastisol...  :)

Title: Re: Another way to do it
Post by: Frog on November 21, 2014, 11:00:13 AM
My favorite video of "alternate" methods was the Latin American shop with their version of an Oval involving a dozen or so guys boogieing to salsa music, shuffling around a table laying down the subsequent colors to the stationary shirts.

I'd love to find that one.
Title: Re: Another way to do it
Post by: 3Deep on November 21, 2014, 12:35:12 PM
I saw that one too Frog, looks like they were having a good time dancing and printing, shoot if I took my eyes off while printing on our auto I would F up much less try to dance.
Title: Re: Another way to do it
Post by: Maxie on November 21, 2014, 04:43:24 PM
I have attached two photographs I took in India, they still print a lot like this.
You can see the shirts hanging, that's how they dry them.       
They were printing a Ed Hardy rip off.     There was a Ed Hardy buyer at the hotel I stayed at and when she saw the photograph she said it's a rip off.
They get great results and can print lots of colors.
Indians prefer labor intensive work, they have so many people to employ.
Title: Re: Another way to do it
Post by: Rockers on November 22, 2014, 07:00:22 AM
So far, I've only seen it done on pre-sewn goods, not Tees. But I'm still new to the idea.

Fascinating.

I'd assumed the travelling heat panels I've seen were merely flash units, Tony. Maybe they CAN do a full cure?
They don`t. Lot`s of print shops here in Japan use the same set up. The flash is travelling right behind the person that does the printing. Speed can be adjusted accordingly. Printing 20 spot colors is no problem at all. If you are into that kind of thing. Well anyway, since most of them use waterbased inks they add an aircure additive and then hang the shirts or they have a dry room where the shirts are "baked" for a few minutes. A shop close to us operated in a building that was only 4 meters wide max. One table in there for printing. That`s it.
Title: Re: Another way to do it
Post by: tonypep on November 24, 2014, 08:38:16 AM
Another shop near Shanghai