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Title: Plastisol transfers, how long will they last?
Post by: Gilligan on November 21, 2014, 09:39:59 PM
We are gonna probably start printing our own number stock.  But this also only makes sense if we can print enough to offset the setup/cost.

How long will they stay good for in a box?
Title: Re: Plastisol transfers, how long will they last?
Post by: mimosatexas on November 21, 2014, 09:43:31 PM
I printed some 6 color tight registration transfers with standard plastisol over 2 years ago.  They still work perfectly.
Title: Re: Plastisol transfers, how long will they last?
Post by: Gilligan on November 21, 2014, 10:13:02 PM
Should I dust, or should I mix the adhesion powder/crystals into the ink?
Title: Re: Plastisol transfers, how long will they last?
Post by: mimosatexas on November 21, 2014, 10:31:28 PM
Never had good luck mixing it in, especially for detailed high mesh stuff. For one color stuff i dust just because it makes it fool proof. For multicolor you have to use either a white or clear top layer and dust or make sure the ink never gets above 200 degrees and use higher mesh counts.
Title: Re: Plastisol transfers, how long will they last?
Post by: royster13 on November 21, 2014, 11:00:15 PM
They last a long time......But with so many colours, styles & sizes it may be more effort than it is worth to print your own....I know you are a printer and you want to print everything, so feel free to ignore me....But sure as heck, no matter how much stock you have, your clients will want something you do not have and you will end up ordering it anyway....
Title: Re: Plastisol transfers, how long will they last?
Post by: Gilligan on November 21, 2014, 11:09:48 PM
We CAD cut the custom stuff when it's requested.

We will mainly do standard white and black numbers.  This job will probably be navy but we will just do another ink change for that and get them done.

We don't really cater nor have a huge desire to cater to the sports market.  We typically do kick ball teams and such from time to time or the mom/dad shirts with their kids number on them.
Title: Re: Plastisol transfers, how long will they last?
Post by: Gilligan on November 21, 2014, 11:12:21 PM
Oh and if I'm gonna order a set of black and white numbers for $99 each + shipping (I think) from Transfer Express then I might as well run my own.  Two screens should be able to yield the same distribution of numbers, so that's $24 in screens and then whatever in paper, ink and crystals.  I can't see us having more than a quarter of the cost of two sets of numbers and we will likely print 4x the numbers.
Title: Re: Plastisol transfers, how long will they last?
Post by: bulldog on November 22, 2014, 02:34:45 AM
I've had some transfers printed for me before that went bad after almost exactly a year.
Title: Re: Plastisol transfers, how long will they last?
Post by: mimosatexas on November 22, 2014, 08:10:34 AM
How exactly did they go bad?
Title: Re: Plastisol transfers, how long will they last?
Post by: royster13 on November 22, 2014, 10:54:15 AM
F&M Expressions has smaller packs....So you can get an 8" kit for 45.35 each....
http://www.fmexpressions.com/numberalls/ (http://www.fmexpressions.com/numberalls/)
Title: Re: Plastisol transfers, how long will they last?
Post by: Gilligan on November 22, 2014, 11:13:22 AM
How exactly did they go bad?

They had a one year warranty, we all know your sh!t breaks right after the warranty is up!
Title: Re: Plastisol transfers, how long will they last?
Post by: royster13 on November 22, 2014, 11:16:15 AM
As a test, I just pressed a transfer that is over 10 years old....Worked just fine.......The problem is that it is not an "exact science"....Different batches of transfers will have a different shelf life....
Title: Re: Plastisol transfers, how long will they last?
Post by: Gilligan on November 22, 2014, 11:29:49 AM
Any tricks to storing them?
Title: Re: Plastisol transfers, how long will they last?
Post by: Frog on November 22, 2014, 11:35:18 AM
I've also had good luck with some pretty old transfers, (usually stored in zip lock bags.)
What I don't like is seeing what looks like an oil stain on the paper, indicating to me that some of the ink's plasticizer has probably leached out, and perhaps is not as supple.
Title: Re: Plastisol transfers, how long will they last?
Post by: mimosatexas on November 22, 2014, 02:16:36 PM
I've noticed that on a few white transfers in the past.  Any idea why that happens exactly or any papers that would prevent it?
Title: Re: Plastisol transfers, how long will they last?
Post by: bulldog on November 22, 2014, 03:52:43 PM
How exactly did they go bad?

When you press them they don't adhere to the shirt...like parts of it will just come off.
Title: Re: Plastisol transfers, how long will they last?
Post by: bulldog on November 22, 2014, 03:54:43 PM
I've also had good luck with some pretty old transfers, (usually stored in zip lock bags.)
What I don't like is seeing what looks like an oil stain on the paper, indicating to me that some of the ink's plasticizer has probably leached out, and perhaps is not as supple.

I've seen that on some white transfers that I've made. Sometimes it could even be just a week after I've made one where one will have it and the next in the stack will not. As far as I can tell it has never affected anything.
Title: Re: Plastisol transfers, how long will they last?
Post by: IntegrityShirts on November 22, 2014, 05:19:37 PM
I order numbers from transfer express. I can't even imagine the amount of time it would take to print my own, cut them, stack, store, only to later run out of a digit and have to reload/reprint. How much time does $100 get at your shop? I waste time with gadget diy projects haha but printing transfer numbers ranks up there with torture.
Title: Re: Plastisol transfers, how long will they last?
Post by: Gilligan on November 22, 2014, 05:36:37 PM
Well... my guy will print them then either he or the office manager will dust them and then she will cut them and store them.

We are gonna wait till we are slowed down a bit to really get into this.  We are winding down 4 big jobs (3 are already out the door)... so one more to go and things should be more laid back.