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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: ScreenPrinter123 on January 11, 2015, 10:34:53 PM
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So does anyone have one of these they want to sell? Or does anyone else want one? Maybe if we bandy together we can order enough to convince Rich to make them, as they were discontinued? If worked as well as I'd hope, this would be a great tool to employ. Thoughts?
http://www.mrprint.com/en/News.aspx?id=1120 (http://www.mrprint.com/en/News.aspx?id=1120)
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I'd like to see one in action. If I could buy a machine that sat at the of my dryers catching and stacking everything that was sent down it then I'd purchase two tomorrow. It seems like most shops don't have problems finding people that are good catchers/counters/finishers but I sure as hell have. Sign me up if I can get a machine to do it. Rich? Lol
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Wow that's pretty sweet. I'd love to see a video of it in action! The only negative I could think of is not catching misprints or pin dots. Still though I'd of thought these would of sold pretty well.
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Anyone else interested? I know I can twist Alan's arm ;D.. so does that make 5 units sold so far??? We need 50 units in on this deal... come on people, use some common sense! :-)
I have a video, but it's 13.4 mb -- Frog, any suggestions?
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=youtube (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=youtube)
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Anyone remember the one-armed bandit homemade unloader, Robey? Robotic Stacker for T-Shirts 1999-2001 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbGp8uBjbY8#ws)
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Anyone remember the one-armed bandit homemade unloader, Robey? Robotic Stacker for T-Shirts 1999-2001 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbGp8uBjbY8#ws[/url])
I have so much love for that video.
When it's sped up it sounds like a 3/4 (6/8?) version of the intro to Money.
The prototype used an ice chest for a stacking spot.
The artsy manner in which he filmed a quarter of the video.
The fact that this 480 SD footage is available in 1080P... you can really see the compression and pixel blur :)
My favorite is the clapping of his hands like a clap board as if he was syncing off camera audio to his video footage.
It is a cool contraption.
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I've literally watched thousands of youtube screen printing videos and have never come across that one. Kind of makes you wonder just how many videos pertaining to SP there are that I haven't seen...hundreds of thousands maybe? I think for a guy to make that while welding in his shorts is unbelievably awesome. I see things that can be done to make it better but I couldn't have gotten anywhere near that far on my own. I've always felt like BASF in that sense...remember that old ad campaign?
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i want one. even if it doesn't do the best job, its better then having a pile of shirts.
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Thank you for bringing things back to focus Jon. That makes 6. 44 more to go. Who else?
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In light of another thread I see... I can't think of a smarter investment than this that would be "working smarter, not harder."
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Anyone else interested? I know I can twist Alan's arm ;D.. so does that make 5 units sold so far??? We need 50 units in on this deal... come on people, use some common sense! :-)
I have a video, but it's 13.4 mb -- Frog, any suggestions?
I'm not really that hip when it comes to videos, and the best way to post them, but I do remember when I did want to post one, getting a YouTube channel, uploading it there and posting links.
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I have a video, but it's 13.4 mb -- Frog, any suggestions?
Go to https://www.wetransfer.com (https://www.wetransfer.com) and send it to me at info@kingscreen.com I will upload it to our YouTube channel.
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does anybody have any idea what the price would be on something like this?
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how many shirts it can stack before you have to unload the table?
depending on the answers to those 2 questions, I could be talked into one.
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@Kingscreen, sent.
@jvanick, $25k, but we need 50 orders, unless Rich wants to be ultra nice :-).
@everyone else of good will and common sense:
(1) M&R, I think, didn't do itself justice in the video - would that the guy putting the shirts on the dryer (when kingscreen posts the link) had done so with even a modicum of sense, having the bottom of the shirt somewhat even (front side and back side) -- which is the most important aspect of the stacking process -- that would've made all the difference. It, in my estimation, was done so slovenly in the video I can't believe this made it as the promo video. (I wonder, moreover, if the shirts can be laid long-ways as well.) Thus, do not let the injustice of the poor selling action of the guy loading the shirts on the dryer dissuade you!
(2) As far as the price, that has a ROI in less than a year or 6 months or even 3 months for some of us/you -- think about it. That's a faster ROI than doing 80 screens in an hour on a DTS ;).
Ok -- Jvanick, I'll count you as 7 -- 43 more to go.. Let's go people! The longer we wait, the more $ we're losing... :-)
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Here's the video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4uuu-2v10Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4uuu-2v10Y#)
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Well that's complicatedly simple.
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seems more reliable than the flip and throw version...
... starts thinking about buyin:
some 8020 extrusions..
a old beater belt dryer (for the belt, motor and rollers)...
a electric motor with a 'timing belt' and vfd (same arrangement as in an AC print head)
some prox sensors for the limits of the 'table' travel...
and a photocell/beam sensor to detect the shirt on the belt and 'start' the table movement.
might not even need to have the table raise and lower if you timed things correctly.
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Heres some reasons I believe many had lost interest in it. It stacks rather sloppy; someone will still need to fold in dozens and QC. So no significant labor savings and QC is not happening in real time. And someone will need to keep an eye on it as shirts could back up in the dryer. For mid-large shops most would agree human eyes and hands need to be back there. For small shops? Well the ROI could take a while.
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Ok, then Jason... Add a camera to the cart that monitors the stack, you can watch on a monitor what is going on. :)
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Heres some reasons I believe many had lost interest in it. It stacks rather sloppy; someone will still need to fold in dozens and QC. So no significant labor savings and QC is not happening in real time. And someone will need to keep an eye on it as shirts could back up in the dryer. For mid-large shops most would agree human eyes and hands need to be back there. For small shops? Well the ROI could take a while.
I have to agree. I think it's cool in concept but unless it was wildly affordable to it's target market (very small/single person shops), I think most could find a better place to put $25k.
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it is definitely NOT worth 25k to me... would be worth it to me at 5-6k tho...
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it is definitely NOT worth 25k to me... would be worth it to me at 5-6k tho...
It's blue... nothing blue cost that little. ;)
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Well, there's a reason they aren't made anymore, right?
I was reading yesterday that one of the reasons textiles are still so hands on/labor intensive
is the fact that fabric doesn't like to play well with machinery, IE it's not rigid so you can't push
it around like paper or plastic or whatnot. I think that video demonstrates the concept rather well.
Hell, even the auto-unloaders don't get much love.
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Y'all are all going about it the wrong way: You are forgetting the amazing support you'll have behind the piece of equipment! ;)
Ok Jvanick is selling out -- back to, what, 45 more buyers? Anyone else?
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Some jobs are better suited to humans, this is one of them. The concessions you'd have to make elsewhere in your processes would almost certainly negate any savings the machine gained you. I think the M&R passport has more potential for labor savings and profit gains.
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at least 90% of our QC is done by the puller... by the time it gets through the dryer, we've already ruined at least 24 shirts ...
a stacker at the end for 2 sided jobs would be awesome... I don't even care if the stack is perfect...
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Then ROI would be after 12-18 months. As stated further up that 25k could be spent on auto upgrade, DTS etc. 25K gets me a used auto/dryer so I can add another production line. ROI far better and shorter. But that wouldn't make sense for everybody