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screen printing => General Screen Printing => Topic started by: Maxie on February 03, 2015, 07:36:07 AM
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I want to make a form for the printers to fill in when setting up a new job so we can run a second run more easily.
What information should we put on it? How much detail?
Screen mesh?
Position on press?
Air pressure on head?
Off contact?
Squeegee angle?
Squeegee speed?
Flood bar speed?
Flash times?
Squeegee shore?
Position on shirt?
Is this practical?
Too much information?
I'd to hear from printers who are already doing this.
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Our shop uses a form similar to that. I don't remember everything that's on it but we have much of what you mention. In addition we have ink used for each screen, squeegee type, etc. Your more experienced printers in the shop should be able to give you a list of the info they need.
We also keep a printed proof with it. It often has addition notes/thoughts/ink tap outs/etc written on it.
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Tried to post ours just now, the forum spit out a error. Hmm.. Let me try again.
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I'd wright down every variable that effects the print. You don't know what you don't know.
Murphy37
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Every time I try to post ours I get this Error:
Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 94371840 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 10200 bytes) in /home/theshirt/public_html/Sources/Subs-Graphics.php on line 412
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Brandt that'e because no one wants see your junk, sorry dude just had to do it LOL :o
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Brandt that'e because no one wants see your junk, sorry dude just had to do it LOL :o
;D
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We have a printer's information template setup in Illustrator, so the artist can put it together quickly, most of that info is on there, and some are adjusted at the press, and it's saved with the films. For the DTS guys, I imagine it's the same, except for saving it with the films
Steve
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ours.
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Ours. My layout screen first, what the kids get second.
All of the press/screen layout info gets exported to Illustrator when we start making films.
All the ink mixes get spitout at the same time the press sheet prints.
I put a TON of stuff on the press sheets, including pallet size, dryer speed, all kinds of production info.
Never used it. Hell, the visual press layouts took hours to code and the floor never uses 'em, though they
certainly help me visualize when setting up print order.
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ours.
zoo gave us his, and it's so helpful!
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Ours. My layout screen first, what the kids get second.
All of the press/screen layout info gets exported to Illustrator when we start making films.
All the ink mixes get spitout at the same time the press sheet prints.
I put a TON of stuff on the press sheets, including pallet size, dryer speed, all kinds of production info.
Never used it. Hell, the visual press layouts took hours to code and the floor never uses 'em, though they
certainly help me visualize when setting up print order.
That FM system you built looks crisp.
Its funny, most of my ops are almost the polar opposite and tend to follow the sheets exactly even though that's not the intent, it's just my best guess to run the job smoothly.
I mounted ipads on both autos so they can change any of it on the fly. obviously it's much more important that we record what actually happened to print the run vs what we initially expected.
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It's not amazing but works for us.
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Those are great! Any you guys up for sharing and or selling a copy?
Sorry to pick favorites, but EB that one you made looks killer!
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That FM system you built looks crisp.
Its funny, most of my ops are almost the polar opposite and tend to follow the sheets exactly even though that's not the intent, it's just my best guess to run the job smoothly.
I mounted ipads on both autos so they can change any of it on the fly. obviously it's much more important that we record what actually happened to print the run vs what we initially expected.
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To be fair I had trained them long before we had the database or press sheets even, so it's like changing old habits, even when they aren't the best.
Trying to decide between a projector, a large tv screen, or tablets at each press. I severely limited what I put on the press sheets to fit on a single
8.5x11, and if I project it on the wall I can add that much more. Plus I'm pretty sure the dudes would actually pay attention to something like that haha.
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Tablets have been getting it done here. I used a drilled in mount to the top of the control units that can be adjusted and then they can pop the ipads out of the holder. Stylus' tethered into the headphone jack. I got some big silicone protective/anti-shock things for them so they won't get beat up by the press vibrations and will literally bounce if dropped and also put replacement plans on them. I'm seeing a much lower rate of press sheets not being updated which was starting to be the bane of my existence. Also, you can snap pics and upload to the sheet right from a tablet and I'm trying to find something like skitch so you can even annotate the pic for tricky/odd location references.
Also starting to put the ipads in other locations, it's been real real good having it at the back of the dryer and for check in/out.
I like the idea of having what's on press on a big screen. You could hang it over the press, facing the ops and do the webcam thing too maybe. Or, just have the ops keep the proof of what they are printing up on the tablet screen and on at all times. I think just having a visual of the print, even in your periphery, could help prevent those random errors in film output where a date is missing or a vector element and nobody catches it.
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How does your press sheets link back to your jobs? IE how is it all managed? I like the picture idea, I think I'll integrate that.
TV's right at the press makes perfect sense in terms of having webcams for ink monitoring. Man, and I was leaning towards
a projector just for the huge size and glaring "oh chit it says 2012 on it" factor.
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I put the art#'s and link to the google doc inside the production notes field in Printavo, it looks like this on a browser (cropped to not show client info). What I really like about this whole setup is that the job as it is approved by the client is the only thing everyone works off, save for having to link that press info. Also, all our press data is on our servers, not a mgmt programs so if Printavo were to go under we wouldn't have to export everything out of there which always leads to some sort of formatting headache.
We're migrating to a local server setup, OSX Server, this month so instead of link it will just be the art#'s and you'll have to search that art# form the ipad in the database and pull it up. One more step but worth it as the drop down menus in my job sheets will be usable from the tablets now (google somehow decided to not enable data validation on it's sheets on android...).
None of this is ideal, your FM database is superior since it can do things like aggregate all the screens needed in a week, etc. We do OK just typing this into a third app that we hold checklist type of data in for each job.
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Thanks for all the feed back, there are some really detailed forms. I see that some are computer based.
I am interested to know how many of you fill all the information in, all the time, some of the time, rarely?
Do you fill it in for complicated jobs or for everything?
Does the information really help when setting up a job a second time? Do the angles, speed etc stay the same?
I will be filling in the forms by hand and filing them with the graphics.