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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: garagewear on September 09, 2011, 05:04:51 PM
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I really need a tutorial on how to get these V squeegees right. Those of you who use them daily please chime in. I either have too little or too much pressure. Ripped two screens the other night.
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I really need a tutorial on how to get these V squeegees right. Those of you who use them daily please chime in. I either have too little or too much pressure. Ripped two screens the other night.
Round your corners on the squeegees.I ripped one that way on our old Jav.
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Did anyone tell you you can print with either side? We use the stiff side for detail and the soft side for heavy deposits. You just have to keep tweak 'em at set up when you print your proofs. Once you get the feel for it you'll be fine.
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definitely round the corners this will help. Also make sure you have the design in the center of the screen so when you set the sqeegee in the screen it is also centered and not leaning toward the left or right of the screen. The only times I have ripped a screen is when the screen was centered on the pallet the squeegee was closer to one side of the screen. I also look at the pic below for how I sent most of mine up.
(http://www.aaufl.com/customart/squeegee.jpg)
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I have ran m/r equipment for the last 21 years and loved it. But recently bought a lawson trooper pc with v squeegies and had to learn to print with these v squeegies also.. rough curve.. its amazing how much pressure they provide. As mentioned rounding the corners, shooting the image centered and i also run higher mesh than i was used to with the chopper style. running the squeegies as poted in that photo really will help with getting a clean crisp print with minimum pressure..
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One biggy that no one has mentioned is to always take your hand after filling the dwell with ink and pull the sq. up in order to get ink on both sides of the squ. In other words you do not want to make a dry run have ink on both sides 70/90..
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I hope more people contribute to operating tips on the Javelin. I will be facing that mountain in a couple months.
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Will try all of this and report back!
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I used the v shape squeegee machine it ain`t worth a dime not to mention time and pain in the neck :'(
I`m glad don`t have to work with it no more
sell it
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I used the v shape squeegee machine it ain`t worth a dime not to mention time and pain in the neck :'(
I`m glad don`t have to work with it no more
sell it
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There are so many of these machines out in the field that your opinion on them being not worth a dime really is just that. There are thousands and thousands of owner/operators of the V-squeegee and if they were not worth a dime they would have changed their design years ago.
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No offence to prosreri tees the owners or machine operators
the V shape squeegee is cumbersome, dificult, messy in my opinion
whereas the chomping squeegee/flood bars are more producction friendly and cleaner to work with
did not mean any disrespect
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No offense taken. But I am sure there are more people who like the design than dont, thats all. If that was not the case they would have changed to a traditional chopper style a long time ago.
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No offense taken. But I am sure there are more people who like the design than dont, thats all. If that was not the case they would have changed to a traditional chopper style a long time ago.
Actually you will find that more people like the traditional chopper style. With the v setup you have no adjustment for side to side pressure. You also do not have the range of adjustability of a chopper style either. I owned a Jav and it has its place. As for the V setup I would never go back having used both. When you get some experience under your belt with it you will understand what we are talking about.
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No I get what you are saying. I do realize that the traditional chopper style is far and above the preferred choice for many obvious reasons but to say the V-Setup is not worth a dime just does not make sense as there are thousands in the field turning out work everyday, thats all.
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No I get what you are saying. I do realize that the traditional chopper style is far and above the preferred choice for many obvious reasons but to say the V-Setup is not worth a dime just does not make sense as there are thousands in the field turning out work everyday, thats all.
Once you get the hang of it you can do some really nice work with it. You just have to learn to work with within it limitations and have good work arounds to compensate for the lack of adjustments. We ran a lot of sim process, index, and high detail jobs with it.
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Well when I get up and running I will pick your brains to try and figure it out, thats for sure
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I LOVE MY V SQUEEGEE!
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I have made a Ton of money with my V blade and have had absolutley no problems since day one. It is the only auto I have worked so I really cannot compare but I saved about $6000 dollars on the purchase compared to M&R and like I said made lots of money and plan on making much more. The flashback is one of the biggest +'s it rocks and I can print on both the heads and flash.. Hey I don't like chocolate ice cream and you do... ;)
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One thing I'd like to mention that I think is very important with using a floating squeegee system like the V, I think proper press setup is paramount. The closer all your printheads and pallets are in parallel with each other, the less problems you're going to have with the V squeegee. I don't see a whole lot of people who run them talk about press parallelism but with the floating squeegee, it can only do so much as far as pressure goes from side to side and if your pallets are out of whack, you'll have to really crank the pressure down to clear on the lower side of the pallet. You'll likely get different ink deposits with un-parallel pallets as well. I really believe that those who have the most problems with the V-style system are the one's with un-parallel presses.
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Alan you are correct and one more thing I have learned over the years is you must have a Sharp squeegee on the hight end work (90 dur.)... just shears better.
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I think the first problem was my corners. I just put the squeege blade in the V and didn't round the corners. Have a job to print tommorow. Will be the first with the round corners.
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I think the first problem was my corners. I just put the squeege blade in the V and didn't round the corners. Have a job to print tommorow. Will be the first with the round corners.
When you rounded them make sure nip a little on the edge where in contacts the emulsion. It will help from breaking it down right there. What durometers are you using? We found the best results using the triple duro squeegees.
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one side is a triple and the other I think is a 70
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Do any dealers sell the squeegees? I cant find any place that sells accessories for the Workhorse Javelin
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Do any dealers sell the squeegees? I cant find any place that sells accessories for the Workhorse Javelin
This guy does Printficient and he is right here on the board.
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I just buy a roll and cut it with a Chop Saw with a fine blade works well but I do not use the triple blade just 70 -90