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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: Ryan on February 25, 2015, 12:38:06 PM
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anyone know of a place that stocks it? Serilor is out, won't have it for atleast 2 weeks. Looking for Triple Duro
Thanks
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Apollo Rubber is the name I think. I'd have to go check a box upstairs so let me know if that doesn't get you anywhere.
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Call Sonny at Xenon last blades I got 70/90/70 still working fine can't say what mm though...he's on here somewhere doing nothing LOL
darryl
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We have been using the stuff from http://www.goldupusa.com/triple-duro-squeegee-roll/ (http://www.goldupusa.com/triple-duro-squeegee-roll/) for a couple of months not and have been very happy, with the rubber and the PRICE!
It is 9mil
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Call Sonny at Xenon last blades I got 70/90/70 still working fine can't say what mm though...he's on here somewhere doing nothing LOL
darryl
Thanks D. My number is 404-895-1796. Triple is $1.35 per inch. Pleiger material
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according to Pleigers website, they don't make a 9mm? only 9.5 and 8?
~ryan
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according to Pleigers website, they don't make a 9mm? only 9.5 and 8?
~ryan
Has fit in M&R, MHM, Anatol, Progressive, Lawson, Tuf, etcetera. What press do you have
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SRoque
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Their squeegee is slightly thinner. I would think that .5 of a mm either way would not be that critical. Unfortunately no SRoques near me or I would test it out.
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.5 makes a BIG difference
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Huge difference unfortunately. Tried forcing 9.5mm which I've done but its a giant pain
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Desperate times desperate measures. You could get some 8mm and shim or thicker and CAREFULLY take a skim cut off the one side of the section that goes in the holder on a table saw.
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.5 makes a BIG difference
Listen to Alex! We have "been there, done that" too. Only 9mil on our S-Roque now.
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tech support SP stocks and sells fimor/serilor blades. I would check with them.
pierre
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Gentlemen -
9mm = 0.354". Our standard US squeegee rubber thickness is 0.375". I don't think the .02" makes a difference.
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Call it a half a mm or .02 in, either way, standard American squeegee profile will not fit in metric holders.
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From experience, that .5mm makes a huge difference.
Pierre I order from Tech Support, but it needed to be drop shipped from Fimor and they are out and flying some in, but its going to take 2 weeks to get here. I'm not desperate for it yet, I just want to have it so when I need to add a blade I can
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I'm thinking we are missing something here. 0.02" in thickness difference on a squeegee should not cause any changes in function. This dimension is about the same as that of the tip of a fine pen.
9.5mm = 0.374" almost exactly 3/8" -
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it probably depends on the holder more than anything. The holders from action come totally apart, unlike the old M&R ones that you had to pry open. .5mm wouldn't matter in the newer style at all. I can barely get a squeegee in the old ones...those were a pain.
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If we could fit standard 3/8 squeegee in our holders I wouldn't be chasing down odd metric sizes.
It's a bone of contention with MHM, but worth the tradeoff.
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Atleast I'm not the only one feeling the pain on this. I said this week 1 or 2 when I got the press and freaked out over it and then had to figure what was "wrong" to only find out its just the Euro's and how they do it. I'm perfectly OK with but when its not readily available when I want it.....I get a little aggrevated. Thanks America for the I want it now complex
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I agree with Ryan here, I don't care how small the difference in size looks in a picture, it is a bitch to squeeze anything but 9mm into the S.Roque squeegees.
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Has anyone with Roq's tried the rubber at Goldup?
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If we could fit standard 3/8 squeegee in our holders I wouldn't be chasing down odd metric sizes.
It's a bone of contention with MHM, but worth the tradeoff.
I find it a bit amusing when Imperial system users think that metric measurements are odd... ????
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If we could fit standard 3/8 squeegee in our holders I wouldn't be chasing down odd metric sizes.
It's a bone of contention with MHM, but worth the tradeoff.
I find it a bit amusing when Imperial system users think that metric measurements are odd... ????
I get fourteen furlongs to the hogshead, what's odd about that?
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Has anyone with Roq's tried the rubber at Goldup?
Yes. It's like anything goldup, you get what you pay for.... It fits nice, and works, but there are much better products out there.
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Has anyone with Roq's tried the rubber at Goldup?
1 1/2 years later and we are still using Goldup with no issues. http://www.goldupusa.com/triple-duro-squeegee-roll/ (http://www.goldupusa.com/triple-duro-squeegee-roll/)
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re: the goldup squeegee rubber:
I got a bunch or triple duros from them. I feel only their 70/90/70 works for us. Their softer ones don't seem to work as well. I feel that they are usable, but you do get what you pay for.
I got two ez squeege holders from Action and love them. They come with really good rubber. Not sure what brand they use, but seems on par with Serilor. You can also use standard size squeegee rubber in there. They are a little heavier than the stock ones though. At some point I really need to order 6 more of them and keep the stock squeegee holders as backups.
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If we could fit standard 3/8 squeegee in our holders I wouldn't be chasing down odd metric sizes.
It's a bone of contention with MHM, but worth the tradeoff.
I find it a bit amusing when Imperial system users think that metric measurements are odd... ????
I get fourteen furlongs to the hogshead, what's odd about that?
In my youth I did a few months casual work on a building site in North California and trying to work with fractions of inches totally fried my brain - I think the other guys thought I was just ultra stupid.
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So is the solution to track down the 9mm rubber?
We'll need to do this soon but still have standard/American manual and auto squeegees as well. Will the Euro width fit in the American stuff without slipping?
I'm hearing "it's near impossible to stuff the US blade into the Euro holders" from users and "it's no big deal" from sellers.
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So is the solution to track down the 9mm rubber?
We'll need to do this soon but still have standard/American manual and auto squeegees as well. Will the Euro width fit in the American stuff without slipping?
I'm hearing "it's near impossible to stuff the US blade into the Euro holders" from users and "it's no big deal" from sellers.
Chris, I'll try to answer this as best as I understand it. I have not taken a pair of mics to my holders to measure the width where the blade is inserted but I've been ordering my triple duro rubber from Ryonet and it drops in the holders super easy. I believe they have brought in a lot of the euro profile to fit all the roq holders. I did hear from roq awhile back that all the holders they would be shipping with US presses would have the standard non euro profile but that would need to be confirmed. I have some standard blade material here and while it doesn't just slip right into my holders I have not had a real difficult time getting it in them. I have heard stories of others where they cannot get them to fit at all but that has not been the case for me. I'll bring some mic calipers into the shop tomorrow to measure what we have here and update this thread but all the material that ryonet sells has been fitting into our holders super easy.
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So is the solution to track down the 9mm rubber?
We'll need to do this soon but still have standard/American manual and auto squeegees as well. Will the Euro width fit in the American stuff without slipping?
I'm hearing "it's near impossible to stuff the US blade into the Euro holders" from users and "it's no big deal" from sellers.
Chris, the old YOU M presses used a smaller blade but as of last year all presses are using the same large US style of blade. Hope this helps.
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Thanks Danny and Ryan, good to know. We're going to be moving from a Kwik Clamp so we're totally spoiled and I wanted to make sure my crew wasn't out there hating life.
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We got our Roq in June. I just measured the holders at .37 inch and the rubber at .36. That's around 9.144mm. I'm not going to try but pretty sure the holders could be pried open slightly if needed. We recently bought triple duro 9mm from northwest graphics that dropped right in. Haven't tried a "US" blade in them as of yet
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We run all smiling jacks and we pried them a bit and made them fit.
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We run all smiling jacks and we pried them a bit and made them fit.
I can attest this work great in the ROQ
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So is the solution to track down the 9mm rubber?
We'll need to do this soon but still have standard/American manual and auto squeegees as well. Will the Euro width fit in the American stuff without slipping?
I'm hearing "it's near impossible to stuff the US blade into the Euro holders" from users and "it's no big deal" from sellers.
Chris, the old YOU M presses used a smaller blade but as of last year all presses are using the same large US style of blade. Hope this helps.
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Ryan,
If I ordered new squeegee holders from Ryonet, would they made made to fit 9mm, or US standard squeegees?
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So is the solution to track down the 9mm rubber?
We'll need to do this soon but still have standard/American manual and auto squeegees as well. Will the Euro width fit in the American stuff without slipping?
I'm hearing "it's near impossible to stuff the US blade into the Euro holders" from users and "it's no big deal" from sellers.
Chris, the old YOU M presses used a smaller blade but as of last year all presses are using the same large US style of blade. Hope this helps.
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Ryan,
If I ordered new squeegee holders from Ryonet, would they made made to fit 9mm, or US standard squeegees?
We have both, the R2 or the shorter legacy M models and the R3 are the new taller ones
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So is the solution to track down the 9mm rubber?
We'll need to do this soon but still have standard/American manual and auto squeegees as well. Will the Euro width fit in the American stuff without slipping?
I'm hearing "it's near impossible to stuff the US blade into the Euro holders" from users and "it's no big deal" from sellers.
Chris, the old YOU M presses used a smaller blade but as of last year all presses are using the same large US style of blade. Hope this helps.
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Ryan,
If I ordered new squeegee holders from Ryonet, would they made made to fit 9mm, or US standard squeegees?
We have both, the R2 or the shorter legacy M models and the R3 are the new taller ones
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Oh man, so I'm still confused on this. The R3 holders take a 50x9mm blade.
Tracking down 9mm blade is hard if you want specific blade but there appears to be some Serilor available stateside in 75/90/75 and 65/90/65. I'm trying to get us on the same or similar blade we've been running here, the 55/90/55, but Fimor won't bring it in from Europe from the sound of it. Of note is that there is a tolerance with squeegee blade width and the "US" stuff actually varies from 9.1-9.5mm wide, give/take. They were kind enough to offer to put the calipers on their stock and find the thinnest batch they have so we could get at least closer to something that can drop in the holders.
The reason I'm looking so hard into this is twofold: First, my crew is used to being able to swap blade quickly and accurately with our kwik clamp which will be sorely missed. Second, I really want to stay with the soft edge triple blade we've been using, especially moving from rubber coated platens to bare metal.
Ryan are you saying that new R3 holders have been revised for US use and are now shipping at 9.5mm or are they still shipping at 9mm?
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So is the solution to track down the 9mm rubber?
We'll need to do this soon but still have standard/American manual and auto squeegees as well. Will the Euro width fit in the American stuff without slipping?
I'm hearing "it's near impossible to stuff the US blade into the Euro holders" from users and "it's no big deal" from sellers.
Chris, the old YOU M presses used a smaller blade but as of last year all presses are using the same large US style of blade. Hope this helps.
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Ryan,
If I ordered new squeegee holders from Ryonet, would they made made to fit 9mm, or US standard squeegees?
We have both, the R2 or the shorter legacy M models and the R3 are the new taller ones
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Oh man, so I'm still confused on this. The R3 holders take a 50x9mm blade.
Tracking down 9mm blade is hard if you want specific blade but there appears to be some Serilor available stateside in 75/90/75 and 65/90/65. I'm trying to get us on the same or similar blade we've been running here, the 55/90/55, but Fimor won't bring it in from Europe from the sound of it. Of note is that there is a tolerance with squeegee blade width and the "US" stuff actually varies from 9.1-9.5mm wide, give/take. They were kind enough to offer to put the calipers on their stock and find the thinnest batch they have so we could get at least closer to something that can drop in the holders.
The reason I'm looking so hard into this is twofold: First, my crew is used to being able to swap blade quickly and accurately with our kwik clamp which will be sorely missed. Second, I really want to stay with the soft edge triple blade we've been using, especially moving from rubber coated platens to bare metal.
Ryan are you saying that new R3 holders have been revised for US use and are now shipping at 9.5mm or are they still shipping at 9mm?
Yes that is correct! Good to go on the new r3
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Zoo, do you still have the kwik clamp system? I have a bunch of the squeegees, but not the main unit (been using a friends). Feel free to PM if you do and may be leeting it go..
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What is correct? The new r3 is 9 or 9.5mm? I'm seeing 9mm according to s.roque.
Mr T. Probably selling kwik clamp in feb. Email me and I'll loop you in on that lot of stuff.
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If I'm understanding it correctly, the R2 is 9mm and the R3 3/8" for the US market.