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screen printing => Newbie => Topic started by: Gilligan on September 11, 2011, 08:32:29 PM

Title: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: Gilligan on September 11, 2011, 08:32:29 PM
My wife just can't pull or push a 14" squeegee well at all.  It's more like a forceful flood stroke.

She isn't super petite and she's not a weenie.  Hell, she can carry our 1.5 year old around in her arms all day at the grocery store where I get about 5 mins and I feel like my arm is going to fall off!

I'm sure we are just doing it wrong but is there any trick for people that feel like the don't have the mustard to push a squeegee right?
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: whitewater on September 11, 2011, 08:38:52 PM
how tall is she?

I had to out down 2 mats for a girl I had working..when I printed I had to take it away...That helped her a ton..

and hand positioning on the squeegee...
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on September 11, 2011, 08:55:01 PM
You have to get your body over the print and not just push with your arms.
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: Colin on September 11, 2011, 09:51:20 PM
Try cutting down the height of the handle by about 2 inches and rounding those edges.  I worked with several women that had to do that to the squeegees in order to print.  You are able to apply more pressure to the blade with a shorter handle when you have smaller hands.  Something about the bigger handle absorbing the force you are applying....

I had to use a couple of them at one point and found I rolled the blade over if I was not carefull.

And definitely follow the other suggestions.  Body positioning and hand placement is key.

Good Luck!
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: Binkspot on September 11, 2011, 11:10:16 PM
I think pushing is much easier, need to get the angle right. My wife is a little short so she stands on a platform so she can get over the screen to push the squeegee. Works well for her.

Maybe shes not good at it for a reason kind of like I suck at unloading the dish washer!
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on September 11, 2011, 11:24:13 PM
I think pushing is much easier on anybody. I exclusively push now and when I have tried to pull it feels very strange now.
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: Nation03 on September 12, 2011, 12:11:47 AM
Pushing is easier, but I can never get the print to come out nice when I push... So I stick to pulling. I guess if you use super tight screens it won't matter whether you push or pull.
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: mk162 on September 12, 2011, 08:37:33 AM
Naked...and I am sticking to that.
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: Donnie on September 12, 2011, 10:59:13 AM
Try removing your hands from her boobs while she prints. It helped my wife a bunch.   ;)
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: mk162 on September 12, 2011, 11:03:28 AM
Donnie, that might help her, but not you. 
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: Sbrem on September 12, 2011, 11:23:21 AM
our production manager is 5"2", 110 lbs., and prints like a champ. She pulls the squeegee. I've mentioned alternative print strokes to her, but she prefers to pull. I've met a number of folks who push, either a traditional push, or the Bill Hood preferred method. I don't really think being a girl has anything to do with it... just find one that you're comfortable with.

Steve
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: mk162 on September 12, 2011, 11:28:41 AM
Heck, I've seen a lot of guys that can't master a manual print.  To be honest, I don't worry about push or pull since the auto handles that for me.

But, either stroke works fine, it's a matter of using those muscles and getting them worked into shape.  Speaking of which, I have tennis elbow right now.  I could barely use my arm yesterday.
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: StuJohnston on September 12, 2011, 11:30:25 AM
According to the infalible Roger Jennings, women make the best manual screen printers because they don't try to 'manhandle' the squeegee. Even though I don't have much experience with getting shorter people to print on my relatively high press, getting something for her to stand on was my first thought as well.
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: mk162 on September 12, 2011, 11:31:50 AM
for our shorter printers, we would put some anit-fatigue mats on wood pallets and that works great.
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: Frog on September 12, 2011, 11:49:14 AM
You beat me to it. Most larger shops have pallets kicking around, or are happy to donate.

Remember also Gilligan, that with plastisol, in general, we are only shearing the ink of after the flood (or fill, or load stroke), and it is the screen itself that is depositing it.
Tight screens, minimal off-contact, pushing, and a little practice should do the trick.

Hopefully you do realize that even with a push stroke, the squeegee is held at the same angle and position and not reversed. Now, it's merely the trailing edge doing the work.

btw, I had to unthink decades of pulling as my method, but it only took a week or two to become a convert.
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: Gilligan on September 12, 2011, 12:31:06 PM
Yeah, I have no understanding of how hard to push myself.  So I'm certainly nobody to be teaching anything.

I just try to make it make that "Zip" sound when the squeegee slides over the mesh.  The problem in the past is that she hasn't even been able to do that.

Last night she made a 95% decent print... I didn't get to witness it as I was catching a shirt to see how it cured on the dryer (so far unsure of that).
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: Frog on September 12, 2011, 12:42:14 PM
Eventually, when you have some emulsion on the squeegee side, you may not hear the same "zip"

Also, as has been mentioned by Waynexpress in another thread, a warped board makes it tough to clear the screen in one stroke.
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: Gilligan on September 12, 2011, 01:25:55 PM
I wouldn't say my platen is perfect but it has only a small arc...   With a straight edge on the center maybe a mm on each side... probably not even that much.

I've always heard the "zip" sound even with emulsion.
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: tpitman on September 12, 2011, 03:47:36 PM
Try removing your hands from her boobs while she prints. It helped my wife a bunch.   ;)

But weren't you weren't holding her boobs to keep them from dragging through the ink when she reached to pull the squeegie?
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: jesterapparel on September 12, 2011, 04:29:39 PM
My wife name is on my business checks but has never pulled a squeegee.

She did use the heat press to put numbers on jerseys when I had arm surgery.
I had to loosen the heat press pressure cause she couldn't get it to clamp down ???
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: bimmridder on September 12, 2011, 05:05:09 PM
John, only because you know where I live will I not respond in any way.
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: whitewater on September 12, 2011, 06:30:13 PM
all about the boobs....
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: Frog on September 12, 2011, 06:59:30 PM
I would definitely agree that we have a fair share of boobs on this board  :P
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: Denis Kolar on September 12, 2011, 11:04:47 PM
I would definitely agree that we have a fair share of boobs on this board  :P

Who has "man boobs"?
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on September 12, 2011, 11:12:45 PM
Eventually, when you have some emulsion on the squeegee side, you may not hear the same "zip"

Also, as has been mentioned by Waynexpress in another thread, a warped board makes it tough to clear the screen in one stroke.
You know I did not notice the zip sound was gone. I remember it when I used to coat 1 and 1 but now mostly coat 3 and 1 and I did not notice till you said but the squeegee does not zip anymore and actually kinda glides across the screen now.
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: Gabe on September 26, 2011, 12:19:13 PM
I would try to use the back muscles  coat the screen first like an auto machine then angle the squeegee a bit to
allow the ink flow much easier. apply down force presure, check  the squeegee angle then pull the squeegee towards you using your shoulder blades the back muscles in this area are much stronger than the forearm muscles
just my two cents
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: RICK STEFANICK on September 26, 2011, 01:15:38 PM
I pull while manually printing.at 49 years old i made a few changes like bought 75/90/75 squeegie rubber, i flood if necesarry while in the past i would have just double stroked. adding pallet rubber to the pallets. all these things helped.. I also  extend my fingers more while griping the squeegie..
Title: Re: Best way for a girl to pull/push a squeegee?
Post by: Shawn (EIP) on September 26, 2011, 03:16:18 PM
 :o