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Heat Seal - Heat Press - Whatever you want to call it! => General Heat Seal => Topic started by: 3Deep on May 01, 2015, 11:56:15 AM
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Any of you do simple inkjet heat press's, if so what is the best inkjet printer to us for this...not trying to go full production just a hand full here and there. All my epsons are black only printers now for seps, so I'm needing by a printer that will at least print up to 11 x 17 paper.
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I'm getting great results from my Epson 1100 with pigment inks, but it's no longer available.
Check out whatever is available from them now in their Workforce line that has oversize capability,
Then look into pigment inks in either refillables or bulk feed from someone like Cobra.
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The Epson 7610 is a great option. It has pigment inks, prints up to 13 x 19, and its only 150 bucks on Amazon.
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The Epson 7610 is a great option. It has pigment inks, prints up to 13 x 19, and its only 150 bucks on Amazon.
what would be the better option for inkjet transfers, the 7610 or the 7110? What about for dye sub? films? ok looks like the only difference is the 7610 has the scan/copy features. Same inks etc.
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I do inkjet transfers all the time. In my opinion you might as well buy the cheapest printer you can find. You'll get good results with any printer. I use an HP that I bought at Wal Mart.
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That's pretty much the replacement for the WF1100 (though not the same carts), and looks like for minimal additional moolah, and oversized scanner which used to be cost prohibitive.
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Yes, that is the only difference. I bought the 7610 because the price between the two wasn't much and my wife could use the scan/copy feature frome time to time.
For dye sub I am planning to buy one of the Epsons L series. Probably the Epson L-1300. It comes with original CIS installed. Just need to put dye sub ink in the tanks. I dont know how easy can you find it in the US, I am in latin America and its available.
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Found this review on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R2WXTAP6MKC6L9/ref=cm_cr_pr_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00JXLGEUM (http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R2WXTAP6MKC6L9/ref=cm_cr_pr_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00JXLGEUM)
Seems to suggest that you could potentially print films/transfers that are 13xwhatever (roll media cut to size I guess) which would definitely come in handy on occasion for me. The 7610 seems to feed paper differently so you are limited to thinner paper and only the predefined supported lengths.
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I do inkjet transfers all the time. In my opinion you might as well buy the cheapest printer you can find. You'll get good results with any printer. I use an HP that I bought at Wal Mart.
While I agree that one can get surprisingly great results from an inexpensive printer (I paid $90 for my WF 1100), like with photos, a good eye will see the difference on a better printer.
For instance a four color printer just can't do the same job as a 6 color printer. once again, that said, most clients are thrilled with my stuff!
One also doesn't want to settle for the cheapest if that also limits them to 8.5" x 11"
One could not survive screenprinting limited to that size.
I do lots of oversized on tabloid, and though 13" x 19" paper is tougher to find, it's available as well.
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What would be the reason to buy the 1300 when you can get the same print size capability and can have the CIS preinstalled on the 7110 for less than half the cost? it says the 1300 is about half the speed as well.
Frog: thoughts on refillables vs CIS? You use the cobra pigment inks for your WF1100 and print your films with it as well right?
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Yes, Cobra pigment ink (in refillables) works quite well for films on the "water resistant" type that is now the most common.
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We use inkjetcarts.us and they are also good for both.
In reality, they are probably from the same source. :)
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What would be the reason to buy the 1300 when you can get the same print size capability and can have the CIS preinstalled on the 7110 for less than half the cost? it says the 1300 is about half the speed as well.
Frog: thoughts on refillables vs CIS? You use the cobra pigment inks for your WF1100 and print your films with it as well right?
The advantage of the 1300 is that it has CIS (OEM) by Epson. It is manufactured for this purpose. Bigger ink tubes which results in less cloggin. It is expensier but it is not a modified printer. I get one year of warranty.
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You will be using aftermarket ink though, which will negate the warranty I would think.
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i think there was a court ruling that stated you couldn't void printer warranties by using aftermarket ink.
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I bought some inks from someone that said, "won't clog printer, just as good, blah, blah, blah..." It screwed my printer, and had to buy a new one, fortunately it was only a $100 3 in 1 HP. On the other hand, I used pigmented inks in refillable carts in my Epson 1400 for a long time... We haven't had to print one in a long time now...
Steve
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One also doesn't want to settle for the cheapest if that also limits them to 8.5" x 11"
I buy 11 X 17" paper and cut it to 8.5 X 17" so the design can be a full 12" wide and up to 8.5" tall. For the small amount of orders I get, I either make the design fit this size, or I have been known on occasion to splice two pieces together.
Another technique I use often is a combination of screen printing and transfers. When someone wants a design with text and a photo, I'll screen print the text and heat press the photo. Doing it this way allows for a large design. I printed 50 of this design using the combination technique.
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Well, with my sub $100 WF1100, and previously my HP9800, I got cheap printers which can also crank out the big stuff.
I rarely use the 13" paper, but it's nice to know that I can do that 12" circular or similar design.
I often kick up the standard sized transfer a few inches, and give the custy that full sized design they're used to getting with a screen print, and, of course, have pricing for the "oversize" print.
Those remaining "scraps" are used whenever a design will fit, and often for my CPSIA labels.
A long narrow print, I'll often print 12" with my !3x19 paper, leaving me a nice hunk of paper for my "Jumbo" prints.
Of course, if using the printer for films too, the oversize capability is a no-brainer.
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So I picked up a hat press off craigslist yesterday and the guy tossed in a free fully functional WF1100 for free (and a ton of JPSS paper), so I guess I'm going that route for my inkjet transfers :D
I'm leaning toward refillable carts for now just to keep initial investment down and because I really don't see myself using it a ton for now. It looks like the prefilled Code 68 cartridges here are the ticket: https://www.cobraink.com/cartridges/cartridges%204-6%20color%20pigment.htm (https://www.cobraink.com/cartridges/cartridges%204-6%20color%20pigment.htm) Then I guess I would buy bottles of the inks here: https://www.cobraink.com/ink/4-6%20color%20pigment.htm (https://www.cobraink.com/ink/4-6%20color%20pigment.htm) and would need something like number 16 (ink syringe) here: https://www.cobraink.com/hardware.htm (https://www.cobraink.com/hardware.htm)
Is that what you use Frog? Does anyone know how many ml those 68 carts hold (so I get the right syringe)?
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We got a buddy of ours to print us some inkjet transfers and they turned out pretty good, but I think we will be getting a printer that will print up to a 11x17 we have plenty of printers now that will print 8x11 which we don't need. We took one of the prints home and did a wash test and it held up pretty good and still looked fine, so this might be a little side market for us on 1&2 shirt jobs. Why don't they make 13 x 19 size inkjet transfer paper or do they and I just don't know where to get it from....thanks guys for all the great info posted.
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@ Darryl. Read the thread! Yes there is 13 x 19 paper. I buy Neenah jet Pro soft stretch 13 x 19, I think I got it from coastal last time.
@ mimosa when I got my carts from cobra, I got a kit. Five carts, five bottles of ink and a syringe. I was pleasantly surprised that the carts came prefilled. Apparently the first fill does take a little bit of care.
I'm not home now to check the size, but it takes a couple of syringe fulls to fill a cart. I'm guessing 10 mL
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Nope, the four syringes they sent were 5ml. Keep in in that with the WF1100, you will sometimes just top off a cart that it thinks is empty.
It doesn't go by actual readings but just a good guess as to average use. That, of course, means nothing when printing art and photos.
When you get an "Out of Ink" message, if there is plenty, you can just do the re-set routine of yanking the cart for a minute. However, since it goes through the cleaning routine when re-set, you may as well top off any cart that can use it.
Fortuneately, when a print stops mid-stream due to an "out of ink" error, it picks right up where it left off after you've filled and/or done the re-set thing.
The bummer occurs when it doesn't know a cart is empty, and keeps on printing.
Oh, and if you do get empty cartridges, they explain the initial fill and priming procedure and sell a larger priming syringe.
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Inkjetcarts.us can be reset in place, as well as topped off in place.
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Inkjetcarts.us can be reset in place, as well as topped off in place.
I can top off in place, but it could be disastrously messy. :P
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Ours are super easy... flip the cap (it's hinged) and then drop the syringe in the hole and squirt it out till you see the level come close to the fill line on the front of the cart. Stop, pull it out and then flip the cap back over and snap it on.
I don't think I've ever dropped a bit of ink in there.
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Those do look cool, but if I were to put any more money into this thing, i'd go the CIS route, and refill a lot less often.
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I had ciss... Switched back.
Too temperamental for me.
Gravity/siphon plays a roll... I don't know, we just could never get a good feel for it.
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I kept reading about how they were a pain to deal with sometimes. Kind of scared me away from the idea...