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screen printing => General Screen Printing => Topic started by: Doug S on May 28, 2015, 06:55:58 PM
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I have a mini sprint dryer with an 8 ft chamber. Would it be practical to dive into waterbase printing and still get any kind of production? I've printed some discharge and found that it was pretty slow because I had to turn the belt speed down to 4 which caused the unloader to have to wait for an open spot on the belt while printing large prints.
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I have a mini sprint dryer with an 8 ft chamber. Would it be practical to dive into waterbase printing and still get any kind of production? I've printed some discharge and found that it was pretty slow because I had to turn the belt speed down to 4 which caused the unloader to have to wait for an open spot on the belt while printing large prints.
we have an extra drone on our dryer, but we do WB and DC all the time at this speed, big and small prints. So yes it's feasible. Just might have to slow down production slightly to make it work, like you said.
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I have a mini sprint dryer with an 8 ft chamber. Would it be practical to dive into waterbase printing and still get any kind of production? I've printed some discharge and found that it was pretty slow because I had to turn the belt speed down to 4 which caused the unloader to have to wait for an open spot on the belt while printing large prints.
we have an extra drone on our dryer, but we do WB and DC all the time at this speed, big and small prints. So yes it's feasible. Just might have to slow down production slightly to make it work, like you said.
Yep. This.^^
We did around 12k DC prints last week, & that's far from all we did on that dryer last week. Yes it slows things a bit, but its doable.
Murphy37
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we have an extra drone on our MiniSprint and run at 4 for discharge and waterbase frequently as well....
I know the guys in back are usually averaging around 450 shirts an hour or so at that speed... so no issues here.
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Mini Sprint here too and we run between 6-8 at 385-400 with no issues at all.
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Cool, thanks for the feedback. Now it's time to choose which brand of waterbase to go with and also which additives I'll need.
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Doug we've been pulling off lots of w/b with a heatwave, you will be even better off with the mini, it won't be 80 doz an hour but you should be able to produce decent sized image area with proper cure time at a minimum of 30 doz/hr if not closer to 50 , depending on the image area and how you can place shirts on the belt. That's all about to change for us within the next month ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :o I'll shoot you an email, Hope you guys are doing well brother!
Mike
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Cool, thanks for the feedback. Now it's time to choose which brand of waterbase to go with and also which additives I'll need.
For WB, we've really started liking the Green Galaxy from Ryonet. We are going to test the Wilflex ink next month i believe.
For DC, CCI and Sericol has been awesome.
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I've read on multiple forums for years that the Green Galaxy stuff is just rebranded CCI as are all the Ryonet WB inks, and I think I saw somewhere that their plastisols are rebranded IC inks. Anyone confirm or discredit that?
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No way that meteor white is rebranded stuff... Maybe rebranded with an additive, but we never sampled any other white like it.
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Just what I've read. I've seen comments talking about it probably 2 dozen times over the past few years.
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Nah, Green Galaxy is Green Galaxy.
Correct on everything else though.
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Doug we've been pulling off lots of w/b with a heatwave, you will be even better off with the mini, it won't be 80 doz an hour but you should be able to produce decent sized image area with proper cure time at a minimum of 30 doz/hr if not closer to 50 , depending on the image area and how you can place shirts on the belt. That's all about to change for us within the next month ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :o I'll shoot you an email, Hope you guys are doing well brother!
Mike
Seems like someone is getting a larger dryer :) Glad things are looking up there. I'll give you a shout in the near future. Have a good one.
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Green Galaxy HSA is made in Italy (or was as of a year and a half ago) and is distributed by Ryonet.
Ryonet waterbase ink systems are from both CCI and Matsui, maybe some others I am not aware of.
Their plastisols are through IC (and modified to their specs) with the exception of the plastisol Comet/Meteor White (I always get the names mixed up) which is made by Green Galaxy.
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These just rolled of the belt. Green Galaxy HSA White and Matsui Metallic Shimmer tinted a "dirty South Gold," whatever that is haha. Super easy set up and printing. Prints like butter down in New Orleans.
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Green Galaxy HSA is made in Italy (or was as of a year and a half ago) and is distributed by Ryonet.
Ryonet waterbase ink systems are from both CCI and Matsui, maybe some others I am not aware of.
Their plastisols are through IC (and modified to their specs) with the exception of the plastisol Comet/Meteor White (I always get the names mixed up) which is made by Green Galaxy.
Thanks for the clarification!
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Looks amazing as always Brandon!
How many screens for the white?
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Thanks Colin but we have a long way to catch up to you! It is an underbase sepped for the metallic gold and then also a highlite white. None of that three screens for a white thing. Nice and white and soft!
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Getting a nice bright white out of HSA with 2 screens is not an easy task.... not like with plastisol.
Kudos!
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Getting a nice bright white out of HSA with 2 screens is not an easy task.... not like with plastisol.
Kudos!
Agreed! We're 2 screens when running a DC UB + HSA White top or on certain fabrics but 3 screens for others.
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Getting a nice bright white out of HSA with 2 screens is not an easy task.... not like with plastisol.
Kudos!
Agree as well. Here is a couple pics from MagnaColours at the FESPA show last week. (Photos courtesy of Screenprinting Magazine - screenweb.com (http://screenweb.com))
High solids white - Aquaflex white Vector Art design on the M&R Sportsman. It was a 2 colour design and the black was MagnaPrint FF & 6 % black NGN. 3 screens of white 1 x 43T (110) 2 x 61T (150) and the Black was also on a 61T (150) one screen so:
White 110 - Flash - White 150- Flash - White 150 - Flash - Black 150.
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We are liking the Aquaflex, slowly migrating to using it more and more when needing a white instead of the plastisol.
Did these a few weeks ago using two 160's P/F/P, could hardly feel the print. Hard to see in the pic but it was a nice bright white.
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So that's technically a 4 color production job? How many screens do the customer pay for? And what kind of minimum qtys will cover a job like this?
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So that's technically a 4 color production job? How many screens do the customer pay for? And what kind of minimum qtys will cover a job like this?
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Yep, with 3 flashes. In our shop they pay for the additional colors (and flashing, depending on tier pricing) just as with any other job, no upcharge for the actual use of the ink, normal minimums.
Cost is a barrier. A bigger barrier is press size needed.