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Title: Slow to process film
Post by: rmonks on June 10, 2015, 12:01:46 PM
Not sure if this needs to be in section or the RIP section.
 I have a design created in Corel V16 that has a distressed background which I got from advanced t shirts this design has three colors Red, White, and the distress background which is grey. When I go to print the film using Filmaker V2 Epson 3000, I print one color at a time. But when it is processing the info to be sent to the printer it is taking forever Like 10min. to finally open up in Filmaker  is there something I can do to speed this up. Note I convert everything to curves prior to.
Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Slow to process film
Post by: ebscreen on June 10, 2015, 12:04:33 PM
Vector distress = about ten million nodes = slow processing
Title: Re: Slow to process film
Post by: Frog on June 10, 2015, 12:17:13 PM
I often see the same issue when cutting a traced design. (Actually I hear about it from my buddy who cuts for me)
Lotsa' (unnecessary) nodes, often so close together that they aren't apparent.
Title: Re: Slow to process film
Post by: mimosatexas on June 10, 2015, 12:44:45 PM
Yea cutting vinyl has the same issue if you get a poor trace. 
Title: Re: Slow to process film
Post by: 3Deep on June 10, 2015, 01:24:14 PM
Vector distress = about ten million nodes = slow processing

I agree with this, mine does the same thing on some art, takes a long time so I just find some else to do while it does it's thing.
Title: Re: Slow to process film
Post by: Sbrem on June 10, 2015, 04:56:44 PM
I've had to take more than a few vector graphics and sep them in Photoshop. It's just faster than trying to figure it out in the vector program. Files like that are usually from someone who is less than well versed in file creation, but Tom does not fit that category at all.

Steve
Title: Re: Slow to process film
Post by: Homer on June 10, 2015, 08:06:45 PM
if it's a filter from tom, it should be a monochrome bitmap....vector stuff always gives me fits so I hardly ever use a vector design anymore...monochromes are so much easier
Title: Re: Slow to process film
Post by: 3Deep on June 10, 2015, 09:55:10 PM
You have to remember vector is math 100% where as photoshop is pixels, I like vector because I can size it as I please at anytime, but it's just as easy to work in photoshop at final size also I guess.
Title: Re: Slow to process film
Post by: cbjamel on June 10, 2015, 10:55:15 PM
Faster computer will make amazing difference. It did for me. Just a thought.
Shane
Title: Re: Slow to process film
Post by: Sbrem on June 11, 2015, 02:27:24 PM
if it's a filter from tom, it should be a monochrome bitmap....vector stuff always gives me fits so I hardly ever use a vector design anymore...monochromes are so much easier

I just had this conversation with a customer's artist about an hour ago, he's pure PS, and cringes when he has to go into Illy. I find both indispensable...

Steve
Title: Re: Slow to process film
Post by: mimosatexas on June 11, 2015, 03:54:21 PM
Designing a logo that can be used on everything from a business card to a banner?  Illustrator

Need better control over things like fonts and strokes?  Illustrator

Tracing shitty art and need tools like pen tool? Illustrator (yes I know photoshop has a pen tool, but they are night and day)

Creating clean line art from scratch or from a sketch and want to able to adjust without issues along the way? Illustrator

Everything else is usually just easier and faster to do in photoshop.  Anything with grunge, gradients, photographic elements, flat art with lots of colors that need sepping, etc.  I work in photoshop probably 75% of the time, including seps.  I do regularly pull elements from illustrator into final print size photoshop files, but rarely do a whole piece of art in illustrator.
Title: Re: Slow to process film
Post by: UltraSeps on June 11, 2015, 06:11:39 PM
Photoshop is your best friend with this.  Sep in PS then bring the distress pattern into a new channel.  Load this channel as a selection and then delete the selection from your spot channels.  8)