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screen printing => Waterbase and Discharge => Topic started by: Itsa Little CrOoked on September 04, 2015, 11:57:54 AM

Title: WB DC on fleece blends: Can you PFP them for more color, W/out ink failure?
Post by: Itsa Little CrOoked on September 04, 2015, 11:57:54 AM

I've never tried this, but I've got a short run of one color bright green on 100% cotton Gildans, with 9 blended hoodies thrown in. I'm tempted to discharge the whole job. Not enough piece count for 2 setups.

I'm using CCI D-Base premium and targeting 389, but I usually tweak that one quite a bit. I add extra D-White and use a high pigment loading. It isn't a PMS matched job. Just a bright, limey green.

If I PFP'd it , there would be a little more color on the fleece, but would the top layer pretty much just wash off?  Will it actually even build more color?

Thanks
Stan

Title: Re: WB DC on fleece blends: Can you PFP them for more color, W/out ink failure?
Post by: ebscreen on September 04, 2015, 12:03:06 PM

Won't work. You'll likely never hit the color as your base will never be bright enough, and layering discharge
is contrary to the way it works, you won't build more color, and if you did, it would wash off.

Title: Re: WB DC on fleece blends: Can you PFP them for more color, W/out ink failure?
Post by: tonypep on September 04, 2015, 12:35:59 PM

Our Resort line includes cotton fleece. We do it all the time double hit depending on the design. with no flashing

Title: Re: WB DC on fleece blends: Can you PFP them for more color, W/out ink failure?
Post by: Itsa Little CrOoked on September 04, 2015, 01:10:14 PM

I figured as much.

I'll just run the job as plastisol. No biggie.

And we have printed blended hoodies that HAVE discharged nicely! But not this blend.  :(

Thanks!

Title: Re: WB DC on fleece blends: Can you PFP them for more color, W/out ink failure?
Post by: jvanick on September 04, 2015, 01:27:20 PM

yeah, the gildans dont discharge nice at all...

Pennant on the other hand, are great.

Title: Re: WB DC on fleece blends: Can you PFP them for more color, W/out ink failure?
Post by: brandon on December 06, 2015, 11:57:20 PM

Force your client to use fleece that does discharge. For like a dollar more the results are better. Simple one color prints here but no flashing, no shrinkage, no nasty spray tack, easy hood prints, no thick prints. Easy clean up, easy print run, happy press op. Everyone wins

Title: Re: WB DC on fleece blends: Can you PFP them for more color, W/out ink failure?
Post by: ZooCity on December 07, 2015, 12:09:36 AM

Yet another band I'm intro.  Nice work and sound advice as allways.

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Title: Re: WB DC on fleece blends: Can you PFP them for more color, W/out ink failure?
Post by: brandon on December 07, 2015, 08:01:30 AM

Let me rephrase that. Try to persuade your client to go for a better hoodie option. Even if it is a dollar or so more per unit.

Title: Re: WB DC on fleece blends: Can you PFP them for more color, W/out ink failure?
Post by: SI on January 29, 2016, 10:06:20 PM

What brand are those Brandon?

Title: Re: WB DC on fleece blends: Can you PFP them for more color, W/out ink failure?
Post by: ericheartsu on January 30, 2016, 12:22:54 AM

i'm sure Brandon will chime in, but Tultex and some independent trading co. hoodies discharge awesome.

Title: Re: WB DC on fleece blends: Can you PFP them for more color, W/out ink failure?
Post by: brandon on January 30, 2016, 12:21:57 PM

Yes they do. ITC has stock on both coasts. Tultex does discharge but they are currently moving their factory so stock might be limited from my understanding.

Title: Re: WB DC on fleece blends: Can you PFP them for more color, W/out ink failure?
Post by: brandon on January 30, 2016, 01:00:42 PM

Here is the back of a Tultex hoodie. Two screens no flash. Not the best pic but cool hoodies