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screen printing => General Screen Printing => Topic started by: Shawn (EIP) on October 01, 2011, 08:04:09 PM
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Could have been worse... like the Yuda.
My wife keeps bitching that anyone can screen print it's too easy and I need to learn a harder trade so things like this wouldnt happen. LOL I'm sure most of us have heard that one... "any dummy can print a tee" I guess that has some truth to it.
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/298038_10150315942054582_625924581_7960650_1284561362_n.jpg)
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HOW IN THE HE!! DID YOU GET IN MY HOUSE???????
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Makes me think about my younger and wilder days when I occasionally drove too fast, and sometimes another car was involved as well.
Point is, more than once my little bench top non-micro four color Cortina finished in front of the Antec Legend or R Jennings six color beauty Corvette on the right road.
No, that press ain't no commercial quality press, and would give some poor struggling schmucks fits, but it actually looks usable, and in the right hands might give you a run for your money. It would have to fit well in the registration gates, and one would have to have mastered the use of the fine adjustment tool (hammer or mallet)
But no, I wouldn't steer newbies towards it.
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Sometimes I wonder why manufactures of hobby (a very kind description) just don't ramp up and sell good presses. They have the manufacturing facilities or sources already?
OR
Why doesn't a group of screen printers form to become the next great press manufacturer?
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Price point. The same reason that some buy entry level presses rather than commercial quality. Folks want cheap.
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Price point. The same reason that some buy entry level presses rather than commercial quality. Folks want cheap.
And Ryonet wants their business :)
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Cut my teeth on a crappy chappy. When you locked the micros it had a nasty habit of pulling right....did not take me long to aim left.
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On our retail clients we actually encourage it when they say things like "how hard can it be? looks easy!" They ask where to purchase a package and we direct them to several sources. And of course warn them of the learning curve and the amount of time it will take. But of course no one listens. Over the years not one has actually ever stuck with it after spending hundreds or a couple of thousands of dollars. They always come back with words of appreciation for what we offer. And they have somewhat of an understanding of the process and usually become pretty darn good clients after that.
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Price point. The same reason that some buy entry level presses rather than commercial quality. Folks want cheap.
And Ryonet wants their business :)
I was gonna say.. what'd you do.. drive to Ft. Worth ISS and take a trip to the Ryo booth and buy the large headache package. ;D
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Hey, I've snaked a few clients with even less... granted I was hating it all as you all probably remember. :)
I don't know who the person was that was doing their work before but they were getting it done somewhere else.
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Endless ink...
so what is it?
Is she nagging about 'get a haircut and get a real job'.
( funny photo btw...rippin frickin setup ! )
So yeah,
Just ask her to help you for a few hours.
Everything solved right there.
If I'm out to lunch on the topic, disregard everything aside from the photo comment.
;)
Good post man.
Cheers.
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Years ago I saw someone print 4,000 shirts with water based ink and a single screen and Jiffy Clamps.....
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say what you want about ryonet but there the ones doing 27 million in sales. and its a choice to buy their equipment. with a package like in the photo that guy is no competition for any of us. there is a market and demand for that stuff. :)
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There are also those out there who see this as a mere stepping stone, know their present market and limitations, and, if they have plans to grow, buy something better with the money they can make with even a simple rig like this.
Hell, half of the jobs I do are one color, and half of them are dark on light.
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I actually bought that package a couple years ago to learn the basics. It is still in my shop and I put my 1 color stuff that I design on there that I sell a shirt from every now and then. Actually works well besides the no micro thing.
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Endless ink...
so what is it?
Is she nagging about 'get a haircut and get a real job'.
( funny photo btw...rippin frickin setup ! )
So yeah,
Just ask her to help you for a few hours.
Everything solved right there.
If I'm out to lunch on the topic, disregard everything aside from the photo comment.
Good post man.
Cheers.
You should never, ever mess with an Angry Wife :)
A man left for work one Friday afternoon. But, being payday, instead of going home, he stayed out the entire weekend partying with the boys and spending his entire paycheck. When he finally appeared at home, Sunday Night, he was confronted by a very angry wife and was barraged for nearly two hours with a tirade befitting his actions.
Finally his wife stopped the nagging and simply said to him, "How would you like it if you did not see me for two or three days?" To which he replied, "That would be fine with me." Monday went by and he did not see his wife. Tuesday and Wednesday came and went with the same results.
Come Thursday, the swelling went down just enough where he could see her a little out of the corner of his left eye.
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LOL... that's funny.
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There are also those out there who see this as a mere stepping stone, know their present market and limitations, and, if they have plans to grow, buy something better with the money they can make with even a simple rig like this.
Hell, half of the jobs I do are one color, and half of them are dark on light.
Printed a few 50 piece orders with my girlfriend holding the screen in place, later built a really bad 1 color press with rigged side clamps before I new what side clamps were, curing (maybe..) the ink with a heat gun. Those were the days...
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I tell these types to be sure to buy the best equipment they can, 'cause in a year or so when they want me to take it off their hands and save them from themselves, I only want good quality equipment in my shop.
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The first press I worked on was a Vastex 4/4. After awhile, we had more work, and built a one color press out of 2x4's and 1/2" plywood, plus the 2 hinge clamps. That little POS printed 1000's of shirts... of course, one would like to graduate to better equipment. There's a market for everything, right?
Steve
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one day after been in the printing trade for ten years i walk in to a shop who lost most of it`s bussines due to 9/11
i was looking for work the boss said to come on monday
he own a old ten color auto spec machine build twenty years before
most of the screen has lost alot of tension exept 10 or 15 screens it was an empty shop
evidently he had little or no idea about the trade
one day came in to the shop barking orders he`s vietnam veteran saying that anybody could put ink on a t-shirt
i look at him in the eye and in my spanish accent said to him do you want this bussines back on track or not
i was offended by his words that anybody could put ink on a t-shirt yes that`s true
but just not anybody can master screen printing that can take years
after working in this company for 6 years it looks like screen printing shop should be
you never know boys and girls
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TBH I got into this with a one color press from Ryonet, then I realized I need more so I got a 4 color richardson used, now I want a 6-8 color with tighter reg. or a small auto. I think the small stuff let that introduce people to a craft that they might not ever look into. Its not the best stuff but my one color last year made me $7000.00 how can you beat that?