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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: GraphicDisorder on October 22, 2015, 08:49:31 AM
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Super excited just ordered a Sprint 3000 for the shop. Went with a 72 inch belt 8' foot in and out feed with 12ft of heat. We are setting up for the future so we can run a 2-3 presses so we needed a bigger dryer. M&R is super busy so it will take 9 weeks I am told but we will have it installed this year! Here's to progress.
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woah that's awesome!
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Congrats... that's a beast.
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Congrats to you! Exciting times! That is a heckuva dryer! :)
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They are moving to their new facility so I'm sure that is part of the reason of the delay. Saw pics .....what a project!!
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Congrats!
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They are moving to their new facility so I'm sure that is part of the reason of the delay. Saw pics .....what a project!!
Yes sir very big project to move all that equipment and such at M&R. I am in no major rush just want it in this year.
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Super excited just ordered a Sprint 3000 for the shop. Went with a 72 inch belt 8' foot in and out feed with 12ft of heat. We are setting up for the future so we can run a 2-3 presses so we needed a bigger dryer. M&R is super busy so it will take 9 weeks I am told but we will have it installed this year! Here's to progress.
Brant; Just to be clear, the only thing that's going to be getting hot at Graphic Disorder with your new Sprint 3000 are the garments that you run down the belt :) Congratulations on this next stage in your business development.
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Congrats buddy!
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Congrats man, we love our Sprint 2000, it's awesome, so if the 3k is even better, you guys are going to be seeing that C3D ready for lift off. Crazy enough man, we are seeing our 2000 burn less gas than our Heatwave did. Congrats!!
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Thanks everyone for the nice comments. Excited for the future. We are in better shape than we have ever been and have added another screen printer to the staff and now this dryer, things are looking good!
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Here we go. The party starts soon!
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Very cool!
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BTW we are going to be running this side by side test with 2 other dryers.
JUST KIDDING LOL
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BTW we are going to be running this side by side test with 2 other dryers.
JUST KIDDING LOL
Good one... actually, this isn't all that big a dryer, but compared to a small unit, it's a huge plus; we have 2 this size, such a change from the 24" we started with way back... Congrats!
Steve
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BTW we are going to be running this side by side test with 2 other dryers.
JUST KIDDING LOL
I would love to do that!
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BTW we are going to be running this side by side test with 2 other dryers.
JUST KIDDING LOL
Good one... actually, this isn't all that big a dryer, but compared to a small unit, it's a huge plus; we have 2 this size, such a change from the 24" we started with way back... Congrats!
Steve
Ya our old dryer is pretty small. So this is a big jump. Plus we can expand it later if need be.
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BTW we are going to be running this side by side test with 2 other dryers.
JUST KIDDING LOL
I would love to do that!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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As I look at a new space I start planning out for future growth... I dropped in that exact same size dryer and started moving it around. Then I dropped in the Radicure next to it... comical.
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is this a multi-level dryer? or just a single level?
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As I look at a new space I start planning out for future growth... I dropped in that exact same size dryer and started moving it around. Then I dropped in the Radicure next to it... comical.
Its huge.
is this a multi-level dryer? or just a single level?
Single.
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Moving right long. Boomerang still needs moved out later today.
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Good thing you don't print water based ink. Working on a slant like that every time we see the shop, it would be all over the place. haha
Congrats!
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I love the easy-access clean out doors on the Sprint 3000... I was told that we're supposed to take ours fully apart once a year to clean it... (not going to happen).
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The Sprint 3000 is so sick. Clean outs and all kinds of cool things on it. I can't wait to put it to work!
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What's the difference between the 2000 and the 3000? I thought the 3000 was that 3 level deal.
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Congrats, you'll love it!
Love our 2000.
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Okay....so every time I see the tagline "Re: Going to be getting hot in here!" .....I hear Nelly singing.
(https://i.chzbgr.com/full/5255966464/hB57AC37C/)
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What's the difference between the 2000 and the 3000? I thought the 3000 was that 3 level deal.
They have a version of it in 3 level yes, but not the one I got. Differences is some software controls/clean outs that I know of.
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Sprint 3000 features include, among other things:
- airflow equivalent to the Sprint 2000 HO (high output)
- a color touch-screen HMI that controls all operational parameters
- Belt-speed control in retention time, as opposed to feet-per-minute
- Graphed read-outs of dryer temperature as well as substrate temperature, using the included thermocouple "donut probe"
- Job Recall - the ability to save/recall production "recipes"
- Integrated Maintenance Minder system to alert operators when recommended maintenance is due
- Clean-out access panels on all sections (burner and all drone sections)
It's a distillation of everything we've learned about gas dryer design over the pas 25 years...
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All these Arduinos and such are causing such great changes to things.
I know it's not run off an arduino, but if any kid in his bedroom can make an interface for $30 bucks that can run your equipment better than you currently are, then it's a great motivation to step up your game and put out your gear with all these features.
I'm loving all those features and think everyone should be doing such things with their dryers these days.
One example is retention time... such an easy thing to do these days... it's a simple math equation with the only variable needing to be adjusted per customer is heat chamber length.
"Keep on rocking in the free world!"
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That thing is so badass. I don't think there's anything else to say.
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How about, "What, not a split belt?!"
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Congrats! Having adequate curing capacity makes a huge difference and if I had the space would be running a 72" wide belt as well. I do recommend more chamber though if doing wb/dc/hsa, 16' as a minimum with more preferable for 2 autos. Luckily you can probably add on drones if you get into that later?
So the 3000 is a 2000 HO with some smarter features? Sounds great. The cleanouts are a very nice design change. How about the window style hardware that connects the drones, has that been replaced with something more appropriate to the application?
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Congrats! Having adequate curing capacity makes a huge difference and if I had the space would be running a 72" wide belt as well. I do recommend more chamber though if doing wb/dc/hsa, 16' as a minimum with more preferable for 2 autos. Luckily you can probably add on drones if you get into that later?
So the 3000 is a 2000 HO with some smarter features? Sounds great. The cleanouts are a very nice design change. How about the window style hardware that connects the drones, has that been replaced with something more appropriate to the application?
The dryer is expandable and when you do it you just tell it in the software how long it is now. Pretty slick. We have room to go much longer if needed.
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I'm actually interested in looking at the multi-level 3000 when we get ready to move.
the 3x 'chamber' length and the ability to switch back and forth could be very cool.
I would be curious to find out tho which one is more efficient (3 level, vs longer chamber)... ie.. is the 3 level version for the shop that does 'some' wb work but generally will be running single level, or just foot-print, etc?
Software features on the 3000 and the cleanouts is awesome.
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What dryer/size were you running before this bute?
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What dryer/size were you running before this bute?
Boomerang, 36 wide belt, I think it was 10ft of heat.
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Brandt...Its good to see ambitious guys like you excited to expand their printing business. Best of luck with it....that's a nice piece of equipment. Sure beats out the Cincinnati dryers I had back in the day. ;D
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After looking online I kinda concluded(before read the replies) that it was a modified/upgraded 2000 HO & International, since I didn't see the HO on the website anymore. Pretty sweet!
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Brandt...Its good to see ambitious guys like you excited to expand their printing business. Best of luck with it....that's a nice piece of equipment. Sure beats out the Cincinnati dryers I had back in the day. ;D
Thanks. Ive had a blast making this shop pretty modern and becoming what we believe to be pretty damn good printers. We have much to learn still but hey we got time.
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Dryer is running. Haven't got it vented to the outside yet the gas guy had to order the exhaust tubes. 2 huge blowers on it so its making some noise until those exhaust tubes are installed. Slick dryer you just tell it temp and retention time and it figures the belt speed for you. It has a plug in for the donut probe. We will test today to see where we are on temp at the shirt. Got some rough guidelines from M&R so we are starting at 360 at 30 seconds on the retention time.
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360 is where I run my 2000. I never change temp. only speed.
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360 is where I run my 2000. I never change temp. only speed.
I think they have it at 383 for 30 or 35 seconds is where it is right now. Still need to test a bit more.
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We run our Sprint 2000 HO at 1 min retention and 330. But we also do a good amount of poly/blends. Keeps the guess work out belt speed adjustments if your temps are right! :)
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360 and 24 belt speed which is a retention of about 30 seconds here.
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on our mini-sprint:
350 at 11 for Plastisol (a little under 1 minute retention)
295 at 9 for plastisol on poly with performance ink.
330 at 4 for wb/discharge work
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Not sure what our speed is since ours doesn't display belt speed. You simply tell it how long you want the shirt in the chamber.
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1 min retention on a 12' chamber is 12' per minute. ;)
30 seconds is 24'
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1 min retention on a 12' chamber is 12' per minute. ;)
30 seconds is 24'
Yup I get it, what matters is temp and how long its in the dryer. ;)
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Great dryer, I have seen one of those puppies first hand.
Let me stand next to your... Dryer. 8)
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Not to stray too far, but Gabe, do you use Purple Haze remover?
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1 min retention on a 12' chamber is 12' per minute. ;)
30 seconds is 24'
Yup I get it, what matters is temp and how long its in the dryer. ;)
How dare I take you at your word... My bad.
Not sure what our speed is since ours doesn't display belt speed. You simply tell it how long you want the shirt in the chamber.
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I can do the math which is what the "yup" was for after I thought about it for a few seconds. My prior post was to point out that this dryer now works more logically. Tell it how long you want it in the chamber. So to that point I had no longer cared about the belt speed nor do I really now about belt speed....so I spent not even a second on that math, thus "not sure" response followed by how the dryer works now and what's actually relevant to the process. How you arrive at your last post, no idea outside you trolling like normal.
Troll on!
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Well, your post immediately followed a post by Jason, who was trying to help you out, with belt speeds. He didn't give retention time on each one... So to translate, you would need to do the math.
Sorry, no trolling, just trying to be f*cking helpful... What the f*ck was I thinking.
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Well, your post immediately followed a post by Jason, who was trying to help you out, with belt speeds. He didn't give retention time on each one... So to translate, you would need to do the math.
Sorry, no trolling, just trying to be f*cking helpful... What the f*ck was I thinking.
I am aware I would need to do math if I wanted to know how they relate. As you can see by each person posting all our settings are pretty all over the place so one doesn't really directly relate to the next. I was simply pointing out for those without this dryer or looking at this dryer that there is no belt speed setting. Id didn't/don't need to do the math since we (like anyone else) would use a donut probe to get to where we need to be. We used M&R's jump off point and the probe to get to our settings. So why would I trouble myself with math of a situation that doesn't directly relate. IMO you were just taking a opportunity to try to make it sound like I didn't know how to do the math.
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My question is, how do you afford all this incredible new gear constantly? Can I have your formula?
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My question is, how do you afford all this incredible new gear constantly? Can I have your formula?
Easy, putting the business first. Not being too greedy early was the biggest thing. We worked 10 years really before we really kept much of any money personally and reinvested basically everything for that period. We both drove 10 year old paid for cars until 2013 and really had no major personal purchases for the bulk of our time in business. We bought our building in 2012 before we bought a home even which our bank said was super rare. 500k building we snagged for $330k due to bank tired of the current owner not paying mortgage/taxes and the market was still pretty depressed here, so they were all about a quick easy deal. It has a second suite which we rent to a coffee warehouse for about 2/3rd the mortgage. So that was a no brainier really when it came time to buy the place the renter was in a longer term lease. We actually saved $900 a month buy buying the shop. So low overhead on the building. We hired 4 employees before we ever even considered any serious personal expenses which I find is pretty rare with many businesses. Most start making money and then immediately get into homes/kids/trips and so on. I still don't take days off other than holidays. Often work weekends at least a bit.
Everything we do personally is only if things are good at the shop and we'd sell our home/cars/whatever tomorrow if we had any real trouble at the shop. We pay cash for almost everything at the shop so that keeps cash flow really good. We only owe for our Challenger 3D and 2 embroidery machines. Everything else has been cash deals. Even the monthly note on those items really isn't much, about a day of sales covers them.
I don't know all the answers on how to run a business with money but I do see many businesses having people living beyond their means really early and/or not putting the business first. I figure every dollar I spend in this business has came back with other dollars it's found so I will continue to invest in it. It's worked for us to this point.
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Wow. Thank you! I didn't expect that thorough of a reply to my cheeky comment. I seriously appreciate your response.
I must be on the right track then. I lived in my shop for the first few years, drive a 2005 truck bought for a few thousand cash, and all my equipment was paid for in cash. I do have a bad habit of buying classic cars and hot rods, but you know...my guess is collectively they were cheaper than your Vette. Thanks for the motivation!
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Wow. Thank you! I didn't expect that thorough of a reply to my cheeky comment. I seriously appreciate your response.
I must be on the right track then. I lived in my shop for the first few years, drive a 2005 truck bought for a few thousand cash, and all my equipment was paid for in cash. I do have a bad habit of buying classic cars and hot rods, but you know...my guess is collectively they were cheaper than your Vette. Thanks for the motivation!
No problem. To be fair I didn't buy my first Vette until 2014. It was 72k. But the Z06 I traded it for last year was just over 100k. Didn't pay cash for them though. We did buy a home in 2014 as well and it was a bit overkill for 2 people at 6 bedrooms. But we earned it and hard work pays off. Over all I just think the formula is the business has to be first if you want it to really keep growing at least when its young and new. Once it gets going you can let up some like we have. Keep it up man.