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screen printing => Ink and Chemicals => Topic started by: Racer Tees on November 18, 2015, 04:49:00 AM

Title: Underbase Grey
Post by: Racer Tees on November 18, 2015, 04:49:00 AM
What line of inks are you guys using as an underbase grey?  Using my standard Ultrasoft Grey just doesn't cut it but not real sure what direction to go.
Title: Re: Underbase Grey
Post by: tonypep on November 18, 2015, 06:35:49 AM
Rutland Barrier Base or One Stroke Digital Black UB are good considerations. Many others.
Title: Re: Underbase Grey
Post by: Racer Tees on November 18, 2015, 06:36:59 AM
How about in a sim process style design? I've had a sep come back with a grey base before and was really unsure how to handle it.


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Title: Re: Underbase Grey
Post by: Printficient on November 18, 2015, 06:41:40 AM
Wilflex Russell Gray is a good multi purpose choice.
Title: Re: Underbase Grey
Post by: tonypep on November 18, 2015, 06:45:36 AM
Careful that ink was not designed for that purpose. Not that it won't work in some instances however if you're trying to block out a camo that would be a no go.
Title: Re: Underbase Grey
Post by: Racer Tees on November 18, 2015, 06:56:17 AM
I do keep a blocker grey for that type of job.  Have attempted using ultrasoft as a spot underbase on a job with grey in the design. Opacity is great but the fibers stick up through the design.


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Title: Re: Underbase Grey
Post by: Colin on November 18, 2015, 09:20:52 AM
Racer Tees:

What kind of design are you talking about here?  What kind of shirts are you printing on?

Can you post a pic?

It sounds like your question could be going in several directions.

Title: Re: Underbase Grey
Post by: dirkdiggler on November 18, 2015, 05:10:23 PM
we use the wilflex underbase grey and Screen Process of Alabama seems to be the only one who will sell you a gallon.  Everyone else only sells 5s.  That I have seen.
Title: Re: Underbase Grey
Post by: Racer Tees on November 18, 2015, 05:46:11 PM
Forgot to post this earlier today.  Something like so.
Title: Re: Underbase Grey
Post by: Colin on November 18, 2015, 06:21:19 PM
I would underbase that in white.

As with above posts, I do not like the lack of fibre trap that grey has.  A good white will do wonders for you, as well as keep your blues nice and bright.
Title: Re: Underbase Grey
Post by: Racer Tees on November 18, 2015, 06:56:04 PM
I would underbase that in white.

As with above posts, I do not like the lack of fibre trap that grey has.  A good white will do wonders for you, as well as keep your blues nice and bright.
I have a 2 color job coming up that is white & grey.  Customer does not want to pay for a 3rd screen.  Looking for an UB grey.
Title: Re: Underbase Grey
Post by: Ross_S on November 19, 2015, 08:24:17 AM
Careful.  Cheap ass customers like that will be picky.  You better explain that if he is not willing to pay for the third screen that he my not get the desired look.  Just my 2 cents
Title: Re: Underbase Grey
Post by: Ross_S on November 19, 2015, 08:24:53 AM
I would also use One Stroke ELT white and probably work half tones into it.
Title: Re: Underbase Grey
Post by: SpeedColor on November 19, 2015, 11:10:01 AM
I use Matsui water based under base blocker.  Works with water based or plastisol top.
Title: Re: Underbase Grey
Post by: Racer Tees on November 19, 2015, 12:04:15 PM
Careful.  Cheap ass customers like that will be picky.  You better explain that if he is not willing to pay for the third screen that he my not get the desired look.  Just my 2 cents
I've been underbasing with Union Ultrasoft Grey and the customers love it.  I'm just not happy as the fibers come through the print unlike basing with my normal white.
Title: Re: Underbase Grey
Post by: BKerfes on December 29, 2015, 03:14:04 PM
Wilflex has a great Echo UBG! Here is the Tech sheet if you are interested!