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Artist => Stuff you've done already! - show it off => Topic started by: Dottonedan on November 23, 2015, 10:00:23 AM
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LOL. Wow! I did this like 6 years ago. You' would think they would come up with some new designs.
I guess they have a shortage of artist still.
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LOL! That's like a kid's Chestburster.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71-fIiHZzJL._UX385_.jpg)
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maybe that shirt was printed 6 years ago.
I was really unimpressed by the quality of a lot of the print jobs in there. Some were fantastic, others should have never seen the store.
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maybe that shirt was printed 6 years ago.
I was really unimpressed by the quality of a lot of the print jobs in there. Some were fantastic, others should have never seen the store.
There is no quality control! Last year we saw a shirt on the shelf that was creased when it was printed so there way 4" wide by 7" tall triangle gap in the print.
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You are mistaken...that was not a creased misprinted shirt...it was a new trend in distressed look.
;) :o :-\
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FYI someone on this board prints a bunch for Disney.
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We printed the same Little Mermaid design for 3 years, if it sells it prints.
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There are more than 1 on this board and to boot, another bunch more shops across the US. Not to mention outside the U.S. where the bulk of the larger printing is done. Those are more of the signature "dated" program the gets produced outside the U.S. With higher quantity.
The buyers try/prefer to keep as much of it in the states they can but they get pushed by uppers to get the price down and they have a narrow view of where they can get a price they like. In the states, they are not as harsh or more excepting of slightly higher prices. It's already very similar pricing than many of you are charging. The thing about the quality, is that there are locals to Fl doing the same design order as somone in VA or California. They don't put all their eggs in one basket. You might think that they would only use printers in central FL due to shipping but I've seen printers in VA, PA, OR etc. printing for Disney. It's all about price, quality and niche and more importantly, "relationships". They may use a printer in Rhode Island because of a niche and at some point, start to use them in a pinch for something else. Next thing you know, they are doing more and more. The buyers like to use "trusted and proven" printers. One buyer likes you, and sooner or later another in another category will be calling. Getting your foot in the door tho, is next to impossible. They either contact you...or see you at a show or another buyers brings you in because they used you when they worked at Universal or Sea World. Stuff like that. Don't cold call. You won't get anywhere. Lol.
So, a printer can be one of 5 that are printing that same design you found to be a poor print.
That design I attached is a pic from the Disney Stores. They operate separately from WDW. that was in the parks originally.
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I'll add that using the same design from 6 yrs ago says something. I saw 4 designs that were in the stores when I was there. yes, good sellers, but Disney should be able to afford (the new good seller). We use to turn a new design per each category (every 6 months) at the most. Sometimes 3 months.
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Hey my 4 year old has this exact shirt lol now I can tell him I know the celeb artist who designed it 8)
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another printer on this board got involved with Disney printing and it was a nightmare, they looked for things wrong when it wasn't there and like to never paid, think he never got paid on some of it. he may speak up when he sees this, don't want to mix up his story, but it was definitely bad.
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Disney is a Monster; I was once hand-cuffed as BATF stomed in a tiny Transfer maker's shop (in Flortida) who sold at flea markets: they were looking for 'Bootleg' prints with similar art.
Damned Greedy Corporation.
He had none there, and let us go.
You'd think Damned Disney would look at it as promoting their stupid movies.....
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There are and have been some horror stories with print shops and Disney, but if have to say, over all, they are not near as bad as some of your current customers. When you weigh the negatives, against the types of orders that can come through your doors, you can easily come out on top. WELL on top. You just have to be on top of your game. They are not for young or small shops.
They are picky and you have to be able to obsorb some hits on samples/screen charges etc. when you make a mistake or come in a day late, it can cost you. They are not (that pick) that they are not able to work with. The things they ask, (can be done).
For the most part, they are good to you when the sun is shinning and bad to you when it's raining. Who paying the bill isn't?
I am in a shop (I've been friends with and worked with for years) doing a 2nd I-Image install for them.
They have over 11 auto's. The largest is an Alpha 28color. Yes, there are some designs they actually print 27 colors with on white tees.
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I have spent quite a lot of time with Fortune Fashions so I have stories. But no time to tell as I am sick right before the Holidays and need to reboot. Best to all
tp
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Rest and Reboot on up - we all enjoy your stories.
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I am in a shop (I've been friends with and worked with for years) doing a 2nd I-Image install for them.
They have over 11 auto's. The largest is an Alpha 28color. Yes, there are some designs they actually print 27 colors with on white tees.
Id love to see a 27 color imprint! Im assuming it would look awesome.
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I am in a shop (I've been friends with and worked with for years) doing a 2nd I-Image install for them.
They have over 11 auto's. The largest is an Alpha 28color. Yes, there are some designs they actually print 27 colors with on white tees.
Id love to see a 27 color imprint! Im assuming it would look awesome.
Not meaning to knock Brandt's art, but if it's anything like the times we added bigger presses with more colors where I used to work, the artists added colors that really weren't that different than similar colors in the deign. One often could not identify all of the spot colors used.
I observed a similar trend in software development, in which the designers used all of the greater resources now available via the improved hardware, yet performance increase was negligible.
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I am in a shop (I've been friends with and worked with for years) doing a 2nd I-Image install for them.
They have over 11 auto's. The largest is an Alpha 28color. Yes, there are some designs they actually print 27 colors with on white tees.
Id love to see a 27 color imprint! Im assuming it would look awesome.
Not meaning to knock Brandt's art, but if it's anything like the times we added bigger presses with more colors where I used to work, the artists added colors that really weren't that different than similar colors in the deign. One often could not identify all of the spot colors used.
I observed a similar trend in software development, in which the designers used all of the greater resources now available via the improved hardware, yet performance increase was negligible.
Right there with you Sir Frog 27 color spot job, hell once you get past 6 even 8 colors what more do you need LOL
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I am in a shop (I've been friends with and worked with for years) doing a 2nd I-Image install for them.
They have over 11 auto's. The largest is an Alpha 28color. Yes, there are some designs they actually print 27 colors with on white tees.
Id love to see a 27 color imprint! Im assuming it would look awesome.
Not meaning to knock Brandt's art, but if it's anything like the times we added bigger presses with more colors where I used to work, the artists added colors that really weren't that different than similar colors in the deign. One often could not identify all of the spot colors used.
I observed a similar trend in software development, in which the designers used all of the greater resources now available via the improved hardware, yet performance increase was negligible.
The market is going to come and go away from colors, it always will. Why have equipment that limits you, obviously within reason. I was speaking with several large shops lately and the trend they see is the same as I am seeing, customers can't seem to find enough colors to put on a shirt if you have the ability to print it that is.
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You have to remember the specialty ink business. Attractions and retail prints make use of specialty inks (in addition to a 8-10-14 color print. Imagine a 12 color print with puff and glitter in the same design. How will you print that? You need more flashes and cool stations.
There is a whole area of business that most don't focus on. It's a shame as that pond is much smaller. Less competitive and those who can are big fish.
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As with any large merchandiser you are at their mercy. Stay on top of your game, produce great prints at top quality and your relationship can be golden. Disney has some of the best art you will ever print, my old artist (and Fortune's as well) now works for them.
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Ain't nothing like printing great art 8)