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Title: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: Dottonedan on December 03, 2015, 04:25:15 PM
I came across a printer that needed to start working on an order for 400k shirts.

Wow!  One order, for 400,000.  Later in the day, he got another for a smaller order of 75 thousand.

Nice, but I bet it's boring to run. It's 1 color, white ink on light blue. Front and back.
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: Frog on December 03, 2015, 04:30:48 PM
I came across a printer that needed to start working on an order for 400k shirts.

Wow!  One order, for 400,000.  Later in the day, he got another for a smaller order of 75 thousand.

Nice, but I bet it's boring to run. It's 1 color, white ink on light blue. Front and back.

In my experience, with shops that get 800,000 impression orders, the boss ain't one of the ones getting bored.
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: DannyGruninger on December 03, 2015, 04:33:02 PM
Thats nothing compared to the guys in china printing 800-900,000 shirts per day LOL

We are on the tail end of closing an order for between 900k-1.4 million pcs but who knows if its going to end up off shore or if we can actually get the contract signed
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: tpitman on December 03, 2015, 04:34:16 PM
I came across a printer that needed to start working on an order for 400k shirts.

Wow!  One order, for 400,000.  Later in the day, he got another for a smaller order of 75 thousand.

Nice, but I bet it's boring to run. It's 1 color, white ink on light blue. Front and back.

In my experience, with shops that get 800,000 impression orders, the boss ain't one of the ones getting bored.

Maybe bored hauling those sacks of money to the bank . . .
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: brandon on December 03, 2015, 04:40:12 PM
I came across a printer that needed to start working on an order for 400k shirts.

Wow!  One order, for 400,000.  Later in the day, he got another for a smaller order of 75 thousand.

Nice, but I bet it's boring to run. It's 1 color, white ink on light blue. Front and back.

In my experience, with shops that get 800,000 impression orders, the boss ain't one of the ones getting bored.

Maybe bored hauling those sacks of money to the bank . . .

At that amount pennies per print if you are not careful. Wages, room for everything (rent), pizza, and everything else. That is my experience with it anyway. Depends on client though
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: GaryG on December 03, 2015, 04:41:10 PM
Yeah - "I put 'em on and I pull 'em off" - all the way to the bank.
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: Homer on December 03, 2015, 04:43:10 PM
dang, we go "squirrel" around 1k pieces.......hell, I go nuts after 36!

typing that invoice up has to feel pretty nice though....
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: jvieira on December 03, 2015, 04:44:26 PM
dang, we go "squirrel" around 1k pieces.......hell, I go nuts after 36!

typing that invoice up has to feel pretty nice though....

getting paid probably feels a lot nicer ;)
but we're on the same boat, 1k orders and we're jumping of happiness
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: Homer on December 03, 2015, 04:47:15 PM
no no - I mean attention span = GONE...1k pieces and I want to punch myself in the face...give me SOMETHING different to do....this is why I don't print. MY ADD is terrible...

and yeah, as long as the check clears...
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: Sbrem on December 03, 2015, 04:53:18 PM
The largest I've been involved with was 150K back in the early 80's, 1 color, 1 side, no real autos... 2 manual presses, one Advance Cameo flatbed converted to print t's (the same thing Advance did with their multi-printers) and a Filbar flatbed converted to print 2 up. Flashing had not been invented yet. And if I remember correctly, for $0.125 per shirt (it was contract) Had a shot at Obama's first inauguration, for about a million, had pricing through New Buffalo which we would have sub-contracted, and made $0.08 per shirt for a few phone calls, but of course, it didn't happen.

Steve
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: dirkdiggler on December 03, 2015, 05:11:37 PM
We did Obama's first one, 2 million shirts, almost killed me, but my old boss got rich!  well....richer!
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: Frog on December 03, 2015, 05:14:06 PM
We did Obama's first one, 2 million shirts, almost killed me, but my old boss got rich!  well....richer!

I recently did two custom football jerseys for Marco Rubio, LOL!
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: Gilligan on December 03, 2015, 05:44:26 PM
We did Obama's first one, 2 million shirts, almost killed me, but my old boss got rich!  well....richer!

I recently did two custom football jerseys for Marco Rubio, LOL!

Bet you enjoyed that.

Did you have to supply him with water to drink as well?
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: Sbrem on December 03, 2015, 06:06:48 PM
We did Obama's first one, 2 million shirts, almost killed me, but my old boss got rich!  well....richer!

I recently did two custom football jerseys for Marco Rubio, LOL!

The one running for President? LOL

Steve
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: ericheartsu on December 03, 2015, 06:13:18 PM
so what does that guy do with his afternoon after he is done?
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: ebscreen on December 03, 2015, 06:15:14 PM
I would never spit in someones food.
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: tpitman on December 03, 2015, 07:02:16 PM
so what does that guy do with his afternoon after he is done?
Slips into his sandals and shuffles down to the chaise lounge beachside under a palm while a couple of Tahitian honeys hold his beer and massage his tired, tired shoulders.
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: Screened Gear on December 03, 2015, 07:12:23 PM
That would take me about half a year to do.
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: 3Deep on December 03, 2015, 07:52:22 PM
Heck I couldn't get 400K shirts in my shop let alone print them, I'm like the rest of you 1K and I'm flipping..
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: Doug S on December 03, 2015, 07:55:11 PM
We just finished 1335 pcs 3 color back, 1 color over the pocket and 3 colors on the pocket.  I thought we were doing something but wow 400,000 pcs, I'd have to put off all of my regulars for half a year atleast.
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: TCT on December 03, 2015, 08:54:40 PM
Oh ya, we do jobs like this all day.... Ya right!!! :P

What's the reject allowance/over under on something like that??!
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: Screened Gear on December 03, 2015, 09:54:06 PM
Oh ya, we do jobs like this all day.... Ya right!!! :P

What's the reject allowance/over under on something like that??!

Most contract shops are 1 to 2 percent spoilage, so 4,000 to 8,000 shirts of spoilage is possible...lol
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: ZooCity on December 03, 2015, 10:31:11 PM
Our spoilage takes a nice nose dive on larger runs that are appropriate to our presses but at the speed one would run a job in the hundreds of thousands. ...

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Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: LuckyFlyinROUSH on December 03, 2015, 10:33:21 PM
I wanna see how big this shop is!
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: Underbase37 on December 03, 2015, 10:50:30 PM
We help another local shop with a big order like this once ( we only did 20k prints of it over the weekend, on two presses) and the spoilage took up storage unit. Not sure what the exact number was, but I was able to get setup shirts for super cheap for a long time.

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Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: GoWestRob on December 04, 2015, 09:24:43 AM
The logistics of it all is enough of a headache...400,000 shirts, 72 shirts a box, 25 boxes per pallet is 222 pallets!   If they were a low cost shirt at $1.75/ea you'd be at $700,000 in blank shirt cost alone.  Better have a great line of credit or hope they are drop shipping the shirts. 

Better have the entire shop proofread that shirt before starting the presses up, you don't want to go through all of that trouble to print thousands of TuloWIZki shirts -
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11269809/colorado-rockies-misspell-troy-tulowitzki-name-giveaway-t-shirt-night (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11269809/colorado-rockies-misspell-troy-tulowitzki-name-giveaway-t-shirt-night)
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: Screen Dan on December 04, 2015, 09:48:07 AM
Thank god we don't do contract work.  From all I've read about it mixed with the few times we did some Super Bowl contracts it sounds like nothing but a race to the bottom.

All said, it was an interesting question to ponder.  In May we pumped out 210k+ pieces, all getting at least a front and back.  Some getting a separate left and right sleeve.  Zip hoods and vests getting two separate left chest prints.  That's between 3.5 presses (three lines running, one press set up and always ready to go for close to zero downtime).  If we were to take the setups out of that equation (same design on all presses) or even have a feeder type in-line system (the smallest print area feeds the next line with the next largest print area design) I think we could probably do 750k or so in a month.  Maybe 1m if our operators had the same enthusiasm and mind for best/most efficient practices that us old school kids did when we ran the machines.

This is assuming two shifts, replacements screens are already up on deck at each line.

But at the cut-throat contract pricing?  I think that'd barely cover our operating expenses, even at the top level of efficiency possible.  I think we'll stick to our in-house printing for retail and wholesale customers.

Fascinating exercise though.
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: TCT on December 04, 2015, 10:16:37 AM
The logistics of it all is enough of a headache...400,000 shirts, 72 shirts a box, 25 boxes per pallet is 222 pallets!   

The Logistics are what I first thought of as well, more in the lines of how that many shirts would drown us in our small space!
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: royster13 on December 04, 2015, 10:20:59 AM
Oh ya, we do jobs like this all day.... Ya right!!! :P

What's the reject allowance/over under on something like that??!

Most contract shops are 1 to 2 percent spoilage, so 4,000 to 8,000 shirts of spoilage is possible...lol

I doubt a shop that wants steady work from a  client would ever spoil 8,000 shirts.....In real life most contract printer rarely spoil that many shirts and if they do they often replace them before the bother their clients...And with quite a few "one stop shops" it is not much of an issue....
Title: Re: 400,000 piece shirt order
Post by: jvanick on December 05, 2015, 07:57:50 AM
When we did the 35k hoodies job, we ended up with 20 (twenty) rejects due to printing.

And about 10k pcs that we would have rejected due to mid sew... lol.