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Title: acetone as reudcer
Post by: noortrd on December 21, 2015, 11:36:56 AM
We search internet and found that acetone as reducer of POLYVINYL ACETATE. Can we use acetone to reduce PVA PHOTO EMUSLION?
Title: Re: acetone as reudcer
Post by: ole jobe on December 21, 2015, 12:02:33 PM
Probably should not use acetone in emulsion. I would recommend plain water. Stir like crazy, then let it sit long enough for the bubbles to leave. God Bless.
Title: Re: acetone as reudcer
Post by: screenprintguy on December 21, 2015, 12:15:15 PM
Probably should not use acetone in emulsion. I would recommend plain water. Stir like crazy, then let it sit long enough for the bubbles to leave. God Bless.

What he said!
Title: Re: acetone as reudcer
Post by: Frog on December 21, 2015, 12:32:29 PM
Emulsion is very similar to white glue, and I would sure as heck not think about acetone as the ideal reducer for that, and white glue doesn't even have the additional photosensitive chemicals that could also be affected.
Title: Re: acetone as reudcer
Post by: 3Deep on December 21, 2015, 12:47:48 PM
Just goes to show you can't believe everything you read on the internet :o, now I see maybe using it to thin house paint, but I've always used acetone for a cleaner since it dries very fast.
Title: Re: acetone as reudcer
Post by: bimmridder on December 21, 2015, 01:12:51 PM
HUH?! Not everything on the internet is true and correct?
Title: Re: acetone as reudcer
Post by: screenxpress on December 21, 2015, 01:51:55 PM
I feel very BAH HUMBUG NOW!!!!!
Title: Re: acetone as reudcer
Post by: Frog on December 21, 2015, 01:55:48 PM
It may not even be incorrect that is can indeed, as a solvent, reduce PVA. It just seems like a poor choice in this instance.

Reminds me a bit of an old product, a rapid dry greenish blockout from, I think, Southwestern, that had Methylene Chloride as a solvent, and dried so fast that if applied in different amounts to different screens,  could knock tight register jobs off.
Title: Re: acetone as reudcer
Post by: Sbrem on December 21, 2015, 03:23:58 PM
HUH?! Not everything on the internet is true and correct?

I thought so too until I saw a post from a guy named Abraham Lincoln stating that it wasn't so...

Steve
Title: Re: acetone as reudcer
Post by: whitewater on December 21, 2015, 05:02:40 PM
I was wondering why someone would want emulsion reduced?
Title: Re: acetone as reudcer
Post by: Frog on December 21, 2015, 06:47:25 PM
I was wondering why someone would want emulsion reduced?


It may be related to this earlier thread of his
http://www.theshirtboard.com/index.php/topic,16614.0.html (http://www.theshirtboard.com/index.php/topic,16614.0.html)
Title: Re: acetone as reudcer
Post by: SoccerMom on December 30, 2015, 12:04:50 AM
   I would think acetone would be too harsh, breakdown of base chems kinda thing, In acrylics reducer is used but a splash of acetone will make it lay better (less orangepeel) So possibly its not so out of line to think a capful might just get the reduction your looking for. (**Test however, I'm so NOT responsible for mishaps)
Title: Re: acetone as reudcer
Post by: ABuffington on January 06, 2016, 12:44:37 PM
Thin with water. The rest of the components need to stay in balance.
Title: Re: acetone as reudcer
Post by: tonypep on January 06, 2016, 01:30:51 PM
Listen to Alan
Title: Re: acetone as reudcer
Post by: SoccerMom on January 06, 2016, 02:17:25 PM
   One might think that, by the book this way or the highway, they taught me that in school... But temp/humidity can be a game changer as far as what the can says, Alcohol is used as a thinner in waterborne Airbrush paint, and most likely a bit wouldn't change the balance, but offer better flow, especially with older product under certain conditions (Again disclaimer, Test first, I am not a responsible person). ::)
Title: Re: acetone as reudcer
Post by: ABuffington on January 06, 2016, 06:13:59 PM
Hmmm, manufacturer says you can thin with water, stick with that for my emulsion please.
Title: Re: acetone as reudcer
Post by: SoccerMom on January 07, 2016, 01:28:47 AM
Hmmm, manufacturer says you can thin with water, stick with that for my emulsion please.
   From a chemistry standpoint however alcohol readily mixes with water, has absorbsion properties,  and evaporates more quickly than water. So I could see it could be utilized to ones advantage under certain conditions.
Title: Re: acetone as reudcer
Post by: bimmridder on January 07, 2016, 07:44:06 AM
Wow
Title: Re: acetone as reudcer
Post by: Frog on January 07, 2016, 09:14:02 AM
Hmmm, manufacturer says you can thin with water, stick with that for my emulsion please.
   From a chemistry standpoint however alcohol readily mixes with water, has absorbsion properties,  and evaporates more quickly than water. So I could see it could be utilized to ones advantage under certain conditions.

Many in this industry utilize the various properties of alcohol on a regular basis.