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Title: 360 shirt machines
Post by: waxman68 on January 08, 2016, 10:11:05 AM
a friend of mine got taken by the guys at 360 shirt machines, a guy named Jason Rodriguez.  She payed, he didn't deliver, won't return her calls, it's been months.  She made the unfortunate mistake of paying him up front.  Does anyone know him or have another number other than his cell, she's already called the police and an attorney on him, but I would like to see if I can get this guy to handle things the right way before the authorities get involved.  I saw on another thread that a lot of people have had problems with him, so I figured I would see if anyone had another means to contact him.
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: Frog on January 08, 2016, 10:20:56 AM
His name has popped up
http://www.theshirtboard.com/index.php?action=search2 (http://www.theshirtboard.com/index.php?action=search2)
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: IntegrityShirts on January 08, 2016, 10:21:12 AM
Ugh, based on what I've read on the guy, you're best option is legal. If that would even be an option at all. Seems too often people get taken for a ride by some shady broker in this industry because they assume there is good faith that they'll deliver.
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: aauusa on January 08, 2016, 10:21:20 AM
has she tried to get through to them on the facebook page.  looks like it is being updated  daily.
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: mimosatexas on January 08, 2016, 10:21:25 AM
[reserving this spot to enjoy the fireworks]

I believe you are crap out of luck.
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: waxman68 on January 08, 2016, 10:24:56 AM
yeah, my fear is that she's out of luck and stuck.  he's lied to her from the get go, and got her for 5 figures
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: GraphicDisorder on January 08, 2016, 10:29:10 AM
She's out of luck. That guy rips off people all the time.  Many digitsmith threads on him. Someone needs to sue that guy, badly.
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: mk162 on January 08, 2016, 10:31:11 AM
he periodically pops his head in here.  by that i mean once every couple years.  I have never spent a dime with him and I am happy to say that.  in person he is a super nice guy, so I can see how easy it would be do get duped.
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: Binkspot on January 08, 2016, 10:41:16 AM
To sad, again and again it happens. Every time he pops up I try and warn people which is usually followed by a message he is a changed man. Try Facebook, he's live right now. He was, not sure if sill is operating in the shadows of his stepson or something like that and have some type of connection to a supplier in the Atalanta area, not Spot Color.
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: Gilligan on January 08, 2016, 10:44:04 AM
Isn't he working as an Anatol rep?

*Pot officially stirred* :D
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: dirkdiggler on January 08, 2016, 10:47:07 AM
Not an Anatol rep.  Jason has always been cool to me and I know him personally, never done any deals with him.  He knows about this post already and I hope he would come on here to clear his name, come on Jason, its not that hard.
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: waxman68 on January 08, 2016, 10:53:52 AM
I was hoping to help her resolve it, as she's a agency that places handicapped workers in different industries.  The money she paid him with was federal money for job training and such, and as such she'll go after him hard, but she would prefer to find another way around this if possible.  All he has to do is deliver what he said he would, or return her money, but I assume he doesn't have what he said he had anymore, and I'm pretty sure the moneys gone too.  She's already started the criminal and legal gears turning, I just thought I would be able to get this cleared up for her
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: mk162 on January 08, 2016, 10:59:49 AM
I say go after him hard, he needs to learn a lesson.
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: IntegrityShirts on January 08, 2016, 11:10:05 AM
I was hoping to help her resolve it, as she's a agency that places handicapped workers in different industries.  The money she paid him with was federal money for job training and such, and as such she'll go after him hard, but she would prefer to find another way around this if possible.  All he has to do is deliver what he said he would, or return her money, but I assume he doesn't have what he said he had anymore, and I'm pretty sure the moneys gone too.  She's already started the criminal and legal gears turning, I just thought I would be able to get this cleared up for her

Wait, she paid him for TRAINING? And he didn't follow through? That's not even a tangible item or broken press or missing parts issue. That's just, "show up and train some people how to screen print". If that's the case, that's even worse.
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: Frog on January 08, 2016, 11:16:10 AM
Isn't he working as an Anatol rep?

*Pot officially stirred* :D

Gilly, the world (or at least the forum) would be a far more harmonious and peaceful place if that pot of yours was smoked more than stirred.
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: Gilligan on January 08, 2016, 11:31:36 AM
My comment was true tongue in cheek.

It was only pushed out there at how hard both parties were saying they were/weren't involved with each other back then. :)
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: dirkdiggler on January 08, 2016, 04:26:06 PM
360 machines joined here and tried to post to this thread, but gets an error that he cant post.  Can one of the mods clear that up so he can give his side of the story.
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: alan802 on January 08, 2016, 04:31:57 PM
Clear his name?  Seriously?  I don't even know what to say about that, other than that is an absurd request given how many times this has happened to his "customers".
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: GraphicDisorder on January 08, 2016, 04:35:48 PM
FUK his name. LOL
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: scott316 on January 08, 2016, 04:47:38 PM
can anyone add a like button.
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: Frog on January 08, 2016, 05:00:46 PM
360 machines joined here and tried to post to this thread, but gets an error that he cant post.  Can one of the mods clear that up so he can give his side of the story.

He's not blocked. I have no idea why he had trouble posting after hitting Reply or Quote to open a reply window.
Perhaps he can send you a screenshot of the error
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: Inkworks on January 08, 2016, 05:11:59 PM
<snip> I hope he would come on here to clear his name...</snip>

Clear mud! That I would have to see.
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: spotcolorsupply on January 08, 2016, 05:42:34 PM
To sad, again and again it happens. Every time he pops up I try and warn people which is usually followed by a message he is a changed man. Try Facebook, he's live right now. He was, not sure if sill is operating in the shadows of his stepson or something like that and have some type of connection to a supplier in the Atalanta area, not Spot Color.

Thanks for pointing that out... ;D

From what I understand he has a location on the south side of Atlanta, and is now selling printex instead of Anatol...
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: jvanick on January 08, 2016, 05:51:14 PM
Birds of a feather?
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: spotcolorsupply on January 08, 2016, 06:00:29 PM
Birds of a feather?
From what I hear it has nothing to do with "the one that can not be named". He may be a distributor, or working with some other U.S. Distributor.
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: Gilligan on January 08, 2016, 06:39:31 PM
Does he still get his residuals or has that deal finally sunsetted?
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: TCT on January 08, 2016, 07:18:26 PM
Not an Anatol rep.

Maybe not a "rep" but they sure as hell are pushing their business as anatol distributors. Saying that they are selling the red products...
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: dirkdiggler on January 08, 2016, 08:33:57 PM
He said he was not an anatol rep to me, who knows, lots of stories against this guy, and I shouldn't have said "clear his name" should have been tell his story.  If lots of people are looking for him and he is here to answer for whatever he has done to people, he will be easy to find.
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: Gilligan on January 08, 2016, 09:34:14 PM
He said he was not an anatol rep to me, who knows, lots of stories against this guy, and I shouldn't have said "clear his name" should have been tell his story.  If lots of people are looking for him and he is here to answer for whatever he has done to people, he will be easy to find.

Problem probably stemmed from him advertising specials on NEW Anatol presses... not used ones.
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: kingscreen on January 09, 2016, 08:19:03 AM
There needs to be a Yelp for equipment brokers.   ;D
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: GraphicDisorder on January 09, 2016, 08:44:47 AM
You can really solve about 90% of this industrys broker problem with a single list of like 3-5 guys it seems like. Haha
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: jvanick on January 09, 2016, 09:03:49 AM
there kinda already is... it's called 'google'.

before entering into an agreement with people like this, a LOT can be gleaned by googling the:

- brokers name
- brokers company
- manufacturer and model of the equipment
- who's selling it
- if you can find pics/youtube of their shop (sometimes you can determine how well they care for their gear)

Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: TCT on January 09, 2016, 09:32:51 AM
there kinda already is... it's called 'google'.

before entering into an agreement with people like this, a LOT can be gleaned by googling the:

- brokers name
- brokers company
- manufacturer and model of the equipment
- who's selling it
- if you can find pics/youtube of their shop (sometimes you can determine how well they care for their gear)
This!!!!

I have no clue sometimes why people are so stupid(remember I'm a TOTAL genieus). If there is a semi large customer that contacts us for a nice size order, someone at the shop googles them to check them out. That is mainly to see if there are other things we can offer them, but still, it takes 4min!
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: jvanick on January 09, 2016, 09:37:57 AM
-- right here:

http://bfy.tw/Q4P (http://bfy.tw/Q4P)
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: TCT on January 09, 2016, 09:46:10 AM
-- right here:

[url]http://bfy.tw/Q4P[/url] ([url]http://bfy.tw/Q4P[/url])

Totally thought you were going to be Mr. Funny pants and somehow have Google return a pic of me on that one! ;)
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: mimosatexas on January 09, 2016, 02:21:20 PM
there kinda already is... it's called 'google'.

before entering into an agreement with people like this, a LOT can be gleaned by googling the:

- brokers name
- brokers company
- manufacturer and model of the equipment
- who's selling it
- if you can find pics/youtube of their shop (sometimes you can determine how well they care for their gear)
This!!!!

I have no clue sometimes why people are so stupid(remember I'm a TOTAL genieus). If there is a semi large customer that contacts us for a nice size order, someone at the shop googles them to check them out. That is mainly to see if there are other things we can offer them, but still, it takes 4min!

THIS!  SO HARD THIS!

crap, after getting "burned" by one scammy customer early last year and having to deal with an angry guy he sent my way to divert attention from himself I have started googling pretty much every person who contacts who isn't a direct referral.  Saved me a few headaches already this year.  95% of my business is word of mouth, and I always ask who referred someone or how they found me.  If they say something like "I found you on google when searching for "xyz", I will run the same search and if I don't actually show up for that search I tread carefully.  Too many fuckheads out there...

When buying equipment and other stuff on craigslist, I will google names/numbers/business names/addresses/etc until I am confident it is a real ad and to make sure the person doesnt have any red flags.  I don't get why you would give money to someone up front without getting some sense of who they are first.  Most people read reviews on Amazon when buying $20 crap, and most people do lots of research on a brand before buying equipment even when buying new from reputable companies (read yelp, contact shops that run that equipment, etc), why would someone not also do that on used stuff...
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: kingscreen on January 09, 2016, 03:15:06 PM
-- right here:

[url]http://bfy.tw/Q4P[/url] ([url]http://bfy.tw/Q4P[/url])


FIXED:   http://bfy.tw/3e6b (http://bfy.tw/3e6b)
Title: Re: 360 shirt machines
Post by: jvanick on January 09, 2016, 07:13:13 PM
-- right here:

[url]http://bfy.tw/Q4P[/url] ([url]http://bfy.tw/Q4P[/url])


FIXED:   [url]http://bfy.tw/3e6b[/url] ([url]http://bfy.tw/3e6b[/url])


Interesting how the 8th or so link down -- on the JRod search:

"Anatol Equipment - Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/AnatolEquipment (https://www.facebook.com/AnatolEquipment)
Rating: 3.9 - ‎36 votes - ‎Price range: $$$$
Anatol Equipment has been producing cutting-edge screen.."

LOL.