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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: blue moon on October 11, 2011, 09:59:06 AM

Title: screen moisture meter at Lowes for $30!
Post by: blue moon on October 11, 2011, 09:59:06 AM
have not used one yet, but was told of somebody who does.

(http://images.lowes.com/product/converted/681035/681035414477xl.jpg)

http://www.lowes.com/pd_78059-56005-MMD4E_0__?productId=3136919&Ntt=moisture+meter&pl=1&currentURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Dmoisture%2Bmeter&facetInfo= (http://www.lowes.com/pd_78059-56005-MMD4E_0__?productId=3136919&Ntt=moisture+meter&pl=1&currentURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Dmoisture%2Bmeter&facetInfo=)

for the money it should be worth it. I have a chromaline rep coming over in a few weeks with the real thing and we'll compare the results. My guess is it works fine.

pierre



Title: Re: screen moisture meter at Lowes for $30!
Post by: mk162 on October 11, 2011, 10:01:22 AM
Are they out of the ones with the really sharp tips?  :-X
Title: Re: screen moisture meter at Lowes for $30!
Post by: Frog on October 11, 2011, 10:11:56 AM
When I see "Strong steel pin for easy penetration into material" I have to wonder if sweetts used one of these before developing holes in his screens in his "when to retire screens" thread..

I think that it's safe to say to use these carefully.
Title: Re: screen moisture meter at Lowes for $30!
Post by: Denis Kolar on October 11, 2011, 10:19:24 AM
This might be a stupid question, but here it is anyhow.

Is this for checking the moisture content in "dried" screens (emulsion)?
Title: Re: screen moisture meter at Lowes for $30!
Post by: blue moon on October 11, 2011, 10:21:13 AM
yes, the tips are sharp and should be filed down!!!!

yes, this is to measure the moisture content of the coated screens to make sure they are ready for exposure.

pierre
Title: Re: screen moisture meter at Lowes for $30!
Post by: mk162 on October 11, 2011, 11:21:27 AM
Let us know how it goes.  I'd like to see how these work.
Title: Re: screen moisture meter at Lowes for $30!
Post by: rmonks on October 11, 2011, 11:25:32 AM
That instrument is for measure moisture in lumber, which probably works like an ohm meter for checking resistance.
Title: Re: screen moisture meter at Lowes for $30!
Post by: jsheridan on October 11, 2011, 01:07:24 PM
Yes that is meant for lumber as the wood shop had 3 of them.

I'll await the results for testing screens.. I prefer a Hygro Meter, when it say's 40%.. the screens are ready.
Title: Re: screen moisture meter at Lowes for $30!
Post by: mk162 on October 11, 2011, 01:27:31 PM
Those hygrometers are cheap, I think I got one for $8 at walmart.
Title: Re: screen moisture meter at Lowes for $30!
Post by: sweetts on October 11, 2011, 01:54:29 PM
When I see "Strong steel pin for easy penetration into material" I have to wonder if sweetts used one of these before developing holes in his screens in his "when to retire screens" thread..

I think that it's safe to say to use these carefully.

funny thing is.........
 HAHA no but I just thought I could sure screw up screens with that.
Title: Re: screen moisture meter at Lowes for $30!
Post by: Fresh Baked Printing on October 11, 2011, 02:04:08 PM
Just exactly what measurement should be reflected for a coated/cap screen ready for exposure?
Title: Re: screen moisture meter at Lowes for $30!
Post by: alan802 on October 11, 2011, 03:25:22 PM
Just exactly what measurement should be reflected for a coated/cap screen ready for exposure?

I have no earthly idea but John said 40% so I'm gonna go with him on this one.
Title: Re: screen moisture meter at Lowes for $30!
Post by: blue moon on October 11, 2011, 04:25:07 PM
Just exactly what measurement should be reflected for a coated/cap screen ready for exposure?

I have no earthly idea but John said 40% so I'm gonna go with him on this one.

I think he is saying the humidity in the space at 40% and it is good. . .
Title: Re: screen moisture meter at Lowes for $30!
Post by: mooseman on October 11, 2011, 07:33:59 PM
If the emulsion side of the water proof film we use does not stick or tack to the screen we consider it dry enough to expose.
the moisture meter referenced is as someone said used to measure moisture content in lumber. The meter understands the conductivity of wood based on moisture content and relates that to a number. The pins need to penetrate the wood as the surface of a piece of lumber is always drier than the cells slightly below the surface.;
having said that is drying a screen that big of an issue that a hygrometer is not  enough for an evaluation.
We like to dry our screens to at least  "popcorn fart" dry which by most stndards is pretty darn dry. In our 90 deg dry box we find we get there in 45-ish minutes with a full load of 6 just coated screens.
mooseman
Title: Re: screen moisture meter at Lowes for $30!
Post by: jsheridan on October 11, 2011, 08:01:04 PM

We like to dry our screens to at least  "popcorn fart" dry which by most stndards is pretty darn dry.

ROFLMAO!!  I love that! that's an attention-getter term for sure.


I say 40% as every piece of literature I've ever read mentioned 35-40% humidity @75 degrees is the ideal environment for screens. I've built a few screen rooms to those specs and been in enough to know this works the best.

I find most consumer grade (sears, home depot) level de-humidifiers, can't go any lower than 40% anyway so attach it to a drain line and set-it and forget it. Back it up with an air conditioner to cool it down in the summer as a de-humidifier can easily warm a room over 100 degrees.
Title: Re: screen moisture meter at Lowes for $30!
Post by: abchung on May 12, 2014, 07:29:08 AM
I already have 3 hydrometers in my drying room, but would like to look into buying a moisture meter to reduce the guessing game.

I just want to know if the $30 lowes moisture meter works for screen printing.

Thanks.
Title: Re: screen moisture meter at Lowes for $30!
Post by: alan802 on May 12, 2014, 09:15:58 AM
I've been using that model for a while now and it works.  It's a lot like the temp gun in that I don't believe it gets a super accurate reading but you can still use it with success.  I'll test a screen that has been in the dark room for a week up against one that is only a few hours old and the freshest screen will read around 6% and the completely dry screens don't read anything most of the time. 
Title: Re: screen moisture meter at Lowes for $30!
Post by: abchung on May 12, 2014, 11:07:47 AM
Cool thanks Alan. I might build one or get one to play around with.