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Title: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: screenprintguy on February 02, 2016, 12:05:03 PM
Hey guys, I've already heard the answer, "don't buy emulsion in 5's". But, ok, I will try not to in the future,, but for now, does anyone have a trick for pouring out of the 5 without wasting or making a mess? I've thought of going to lowes and picking up one of these easy pour spouts, just not sure if it will screw onto the opening on the bucket I have. I'm sure someone has mastered a trick besides, don't buy 5 gal buckets.

Thanks guys!
Mike
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: GraphicDisorder on February 02, 2016, 12:06:35 PM
Try buying it in Gallons.



 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: Underbase37 on February 02, 2016, 12:17:42 PM
If you have an empty chemical jug with the spout on it, you could spraypaint it black, and  pour it in there using a funnel.

Might work for you.

Murphy

Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: screenprintguy on February 02, 2016, 12:32:40 PM
couldn't resist huh Brandt ;D

I have to run to Lowes in a bit for some wood for screen racks I have one of my guys building so I'll see if one of them spouts will work. It makes such a mess. I thought I remember seeing a video, maybe the Ink Kitchen, and they had some sort of pivoting device with a 5 gal bucket in it that leaned the bucket over to pour into a scoop coater. Pretty neat thing if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: Homer on February 02, 2016, 12:35:53 PM
washing machine detergent, like Tide. tops should pop on / pop off....they have a nice our spout.
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: screenprintguy on February 02, 2016, 12:58:09 PM
Thanks for the idea Jay!

I think what I saw in someone's video was one of these, but, I'll just make sure to always request singles. The big 5 is a pain and if there isn't a discount to deal with that buckets, skaaaayrewwww that!

(https://www.essexdrumhandling.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/p15-ss.jpg)
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: mk162 on February 02, 2016, 01:01:14 PM
we order it in gallons too.  we did 5's for a while and we had a bucket pump that worked well.

singles ended up being easier.
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: jvanick on February 02, 2016, 01:31:08 PM
we pour off from the 5er into gallon buckets.

Been thinking of making a lid with some kind of spigot or plug on the other side of the spout so it'll pour faster (breaking the vacuum), but if you're patient seems to work fine.
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: ebscreen on February 02, 2016, 01:33:02 PM
It was Motion Textile:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9_maobRyZY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9_maobRyZY)

I always wondered about the tippy-dumper as well. But in reality it's best to order single gallons haha.


FWIW that shop is jaw dropping. Reclaim area alone is dream come true material.
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: screenprintguy on February 02, 2016, 02:10:57 PM
It was Motion Textile:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9_maobRyZY[/url] ([url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9_maobRyZY[/url])

I always wondered about the tippy-dumper as well. But in reality it's best to order single gallons haha.


FWIW that shop is jaw dropping. Reclaim area alone is dream come true material.


Yup you found it! That's the video. Notice that whole shop is static frames as well? I've really been pondering selling off my newmans, stretch table and all and going all s-mesh statics. I have a big mix of 23x31 mzx, m3, and m3uls. But most people I've talked to about buying them want them so cheap it's nuts so I've waited for a reasonable offer, if I was to do it at all. I just spent 1500 bucks in shurloc panels because our inventory of good screens has started to spiral down, but now seeing that video makes me wish I held off. Not to change the subject matter of this thread or anything, lol. Thanks for finding that!

For the time being, I went to lowes, picked up one of these (http://images.lowes.com/product/converted/820909/820909561811lg.jpg) and one of these (http://images.lowes.com/product/converted/022384/022384951761.jpg) and a new 1 gal metal paint bucket. That one lid goes on the 1 gallon and has a capable spout to pour out of. Seemed like a cheap easy way to get through this batch of emulsion.
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: GraphicDisorder on February 02, 2016, 02:13:21 PM
Have you considered Gallon buckets?
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: screenprintguy on February 02, 2016, 02:22:08 PM
(http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001689407/4425758706_ball_buster_tshirt_p235109036973389904q08p_400_xlarge.jpeg)
Have you considered Gallon buckets?
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: screenprintguy on February 02, 2016, 02:57:29 PM
Ok, so my jerry rig idea works and was cheap, easy and will be totally usable taking a pain in the arse situation and making it actually clean and simple. Pour spout from Lowes for 5 gal buckets screws right on the cap opening. 1 gallon steel paint bucket, and rubber 1 gallon sealable pour spout top. Friggin works really good. So I guess if you can save 20-40 bucks from your supplier buying 5's instead of 5 singles, this can be a headache free way to getter done. Here's some pics.
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: ebscreen on February 02, 2016, 03:16:26 PM
Or you could just buy it in gallons.
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: ZooCity on February 02, 2016, 03:19:27 PM
Have you considered buying gallons?

But seriously...tippy bucket looks smart.  My opinion/rule here is we won't buy drums unless we have the proper space for storage and handling and dispensing system.  But if there was some magic bung hole tap (uhhh...) that didn't become riddled with dried emulsion chunks this idea could work.  But you still need a bung entry (again...) mixer to sensitize. 

Motion does look like a screen process wet dream.  I love douthitt's pass through design for CTS shooting. 
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: GraphicDisorder on February 02, 2016, 03:20:09 PM
I think they sell them in gallons, not very heavy that way.
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: screenprintguy on February 02, 2016, 03:38:45 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/T0SJVVm2b1DJm/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: dirkdiggler on February 02, 2016, 03:39:17 PM
my advice was going to be buy a case, it comes with 4 gallons!
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: SoccerMom on February 02, 2016, 03:43:22 PM
     Get a big soup server, and ladle it out.
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: screenprintguy on February 02, 2016, 03:49:30 PM
Yeah,  yeah, yeah, but like I stated earlier, I didn't set out to get a 5er, that must have been the hidden key to the extra discount, I've always got singles. But, if someone does get a 5er and looking for an easy clean way to make it work, This is it. One drip mark from pouring out of the 5. I think even when I get my next batch of singles, I'll still pour them into this paint can with the sealable lid, man it loads the scoop coater nice and clean, no drips, and I know you all get drops from your gallons when filling your coaters.
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: Homer on February 02, 2016, 04:06:34 PM
I make a bigger mess going from the scoop coater back into the gallon bucket. I seem to get it on the floor, the walls, my pants...everywhere but the damn bucket. I am not allowed in my own dark room.

very nice find Mike.


I still like the gallons.
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: dirkdiggler on February 02, 2016, 04:54:08 PM
(http://theinkkitchen.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/photo-1.jpg)

we get our emulsion in these from ULANO!
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: screenprintguy on February 02, 2016, 05:15:13 PM
([url]http://theinkkitchen.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/photo-1.jpg[/url])

we get our emulsion in these from ULANO!


Do you have to request that style bucket?
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: screenprintguy on February 02, 2016, 05:17:37 PM
I make a bigger mess going from the scoop coater back into the gallon bucket. I seem to get it on the floor, the walls, my pants...everywhere but the damn bucket. I am not allowed in my own dark room.

very nice find Mike.


I still like the gallons.

I know what you mean man. I try to monitor how much I have in the coater so that if it's just a little it gets trashed. Too much of a chance that the coater scraped off some gunk from a screen, or if it's a 30-60 screen coating session, I really don't want to put anything that might have gotten in the coater back in the bucket, but if I do, I just hold it up on it's side, and use an Ultimate ink card on it's corner down in the angle of the coater and one swipe moves it all out nicely into the bucket.
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: ebscreen on February 02, 2016, 05:18:05 PM
Looks like the ridiculously huge coffee mugs you get from 7-11.
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: screenprintguy on February 02, 2016, 05:25:18 PM
That's a dam cool bucket though, lol
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: GraphicDisorder on February 02, 2016, 05:39:42 PM
Looks like about a gallon size, probably a good size to shoot for.
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: dirkdiggler on February 02, 2016, 07:26:48 PM
Nope, we are using QLT and it comes in that bucket.
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: GKitson on February 17, 2016, 09:42:56 AM
Hey guys, I've already heard the answer, "don't buy emulsion in 5's". But, ok, I will try not to in the future,, but for now, does anyone have a trick for pouring out of the 5 without wasting or making a mess? I've thought of going to lowes and picking up one of these easy pour spouts, just not sure if it will screw onto the opening on the bucket I have. I'm sure someone has mastered a trick besides, don't buy 5 gal buckets.

Thanks guys!
Mike


Just added this to our YouTube channel;

http://tinyurl.com/gal-bucket-emulsion-pour (http://tinyurl.com/gal-bucket-emulsion-pour)

Check it out...
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: Racer Tees on February 17, 2016, 10:46:38 AM
I've been wondering about that semi auto coating stand. How you guys like that unit?


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Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: ABuffington on February 17, 2016, 11:27:48 AM
Hey thanks for posting a video of Motion Textile's shop, I haven't seen this before.  Tom's place is a blueprint for how it should be done.  He prints all of our show shirts and produces incredible work. 

Al
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Post by: screenprintguy on February 17, 2016, 11:33:02 AM
Hey thanks for posting a video of Motion Textile's shop, I haven't seen this before.  Tom's place is a blueprint for how it should be done.  He prints all of our show shirts and produces incredible work. 

Al

Soooooooo Al, Chris from Roeder Industries was telling me last week that T9 is the bombdiggity and that's what I should be using for an all in one emulsion for plastisol anddddd discharge printing.
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: GKitson on February 17, 2016, 08:18:35 PM
I've been wondering about that semi auto coating stand. How you guys like that unit?


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The Vastex semi auto coater works pretty much as advertised.  Works great in tandem with the CTS, coat 2 or 3 and change out the screen on the CTS.

Very consistent screens, EOM very consistent.  Alan & 1 both can coat faster manually, but he/I coat more consistently with the Vastex.

Speed of stroke has a great deal to do with EOM and the coater has no speed variations, one less variable.

PLUS, when we need to train a new staff member to coat it should be identical, should be.

My 2 cents...
Title: Re: Pouring emulsion down from 5 gal buckets with no mess?
Post by: Evo on February 17, 2016, 09:21:02 PM
For a long time I'd transfer emulsion into the gallon or so sized plastic coffee cans that Folger's come in these days. They seal well, pour easy and when the emulsion dries it peels off.