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screen printing => Ink and Chemicals => Topic started by: Shanarchy on February 18, 2016, 01:14:38 PM

Title: What ink brand are you using and why
Post by: Shanarchy on February 18, 2016, 01:14:38 PM
What ink brand are you using, and why? Not your white ink, but your every day normal colors.
Title: Re: What ink brand are you using and why
Post by: Frog on February 18, 2016, 01:20:40 PM
Mostly Union, simply because that's what I started with way back when. Between their Ultra Soft and Maxopake, most of my bases were covered. I eventually added their Mixopake system with the added benefit of having formulas for the stock Union colors.
International Coatings inks are available locally and have found their way onto the shelves as well in a few colors
Actually, a few years back, Union only offered an extremely dark navy and that was my first IC alternative specifically by choice.
Title: Re: What ink brand are you using and why
Post by: Croft on February 18, 2016, 01:26:11 PM
Mostly Wilflex for  colours, Years ago had a terrible time with ink pickup on screens we were sold on the promise of less which turned out true. Also there is a supplier 5 miles away that has made it very convenient .
 We have also started using Rutland lately mostly white but also some standard colour
Title: Re: What ink brand are you using and why
Post by: XG Print on February 18, 2016, 01:27:40 PM
We are big fans of the QCM XOLB series.  They seem to print manually very well and the coverage is excellent when printing on black and dark shirts.  Price is right as well which always helps.
Title: Re: What ink brand are you using and why
Post by: jvanick on February 18, 2016, 02:12:46 PM
Wilflex PC system for colors

started using them because their starter kit was low cost and they offered the greatest range of 'base' options.

we've also been very happy with their IMS system... while we really don't use the color recycling feature, it's cool to know it's there.

since then we will continue to only use them due to the awesome support we've gotten from Steve and his crew at Wilflex.
Title: Re: What ink brand are you using and why
Post by: 3Deep on February 18, 2016, 02:20:40 PM
We started out using Union Inks, although we have tried other brands but came right back to union inks, and we think here that Union colors are pretty much a good match for the art we produce and can blend the inks for secondary colors...
Title: Re: What ink brand are you using and why
Post by: dirkdiggler on February 18, 2016, 03:32:07 PM
Wilflex Epic series mostly, I tried using others, but always come back here.  Good opacity and good wet on wet properties.
Title: Re: What ink brand are you using and why
Post by: Printficient on February 18, 2016, 04:59:53 PM
Wilflex PC's.  Next Gen Base and White.  Soon Next Gen Black.  Magic Extender. Xenon.  The Next Gen is the shidizzle.  Unreal mileage and opacity.
Title: Re: What ink brand are you using and why
Post by: Shanarchy on February 18, 2016, 05:06:59 PM
Wilflex PC's.  Next Gen Base and White.  Soon Next Gen Black.  Magic Extender. Xenon.  The Next Gen is the shidizzle.  Unreal mileage and opacity.

I ordered a gallon of the white, black, and magic the other day to give them a try.

Is the base made to use with mixing systems?
Title: Re: What ink brand are you using and why
Post by: DannyGruninger on February 18, 2016, 05:08:00 PM
Wilflex PC's.  Next Gen Base and White.  Soon Next Gen Black.  Magic Extender. Xenon.  The Next Gen is the shidizzle.  Unreal mileage and opacity.

I ordered a gallon of the white, black, and magic the other day to give them a try.

Is the base made to use with mixing systems?


Yeah you can use your choice of pigments with the nexgen base. That's what we are doing here - international pigments from ryonet w/ nexgen base


Title: Re: What ink brand are you using and why
Post by: Wildcard on February 18, 2016, 05:15:51 PM
I took over my shop and it had a wild mix of Sericol, Rutland M3 and Wilflex Epic Mx series. I found all have worked pretty well in comparison to each other but chose to go with Wilflex moving forward when needing to restock on colours.
Title: Re: What ink brand are you using and why
Post by: abchung on February 18, 2016, 06:12:41 PM
Plastisol: Wilflex P.C, I want to move to Rutland H.O because of opacity, but the supplier does not have all the colours for mixing.

Water Base: Matsui because that is the only supplier that has full support of all their inks.

Water base (mix my own for low end stuff): We buy emulsifiers, binders and mineral spirit to make our own because works out to be around $0.10 per kg because water cost almost nothing when pumped out of the ground.
Title: Re: What ink brand are you using and why
Post by: Rockers on February 18, 2016, 09:37:28 PM
Wilflex P.C system with amazing base. Loving the fact that it`s super easy to mix any amount of any pantone color needed.
Standard white- Wilflex amazing bright white
Title: Re: What ink brand are you using and why
Post by: pwalsh on February 18, 2016, 10:07:29 PM
Plastisol: Wilflex P.C, I want to move to Rutland H.O because of opacity, but the supplier does not have all the colours for mixing.


There will be some big news in the next few weeks from PolyOne Wilflex on the release of a new Opaque Color Matching System.  The Nazdar SourceOne Team is pushing hard to have something to show folks at next months ISS Atlantic City show.
Title: Re: What ink brand are you using and why
Post by: Maff on February 18, 2016, 11:58:47 PM
Recently in the past year we have been using Total Ink Solutions for some of our opaque colors and some low cure poly inks.  They have a full range of options and have been really helpful, plus they are only a 1 day ship to us.
Otherwise, we really like Union Ultra Soft for wet on wet printing and also has a very soft hand.
We also use International Coatings as well for their Navy and for some of their Opaque colors (and their White ink 711).
Title: Re: What ink brand are you using and why
Post by: willy35 on February 19, 2016, 03:11:21 AM
Plastisol : Mixopake, because it is matt colors, it is opaque, it print great.
WB : on light permatone, because it print great, matt finish and it is GOTS approved.
         on dark, VIRUS ink, minimal dot gain, great hand of the print, easy to print, and it is GOTS approved.


I watch closely to Wilflex One, getting rid of PVC is my goal.


Title: Re: What ink brand are you using and why
Post by: Homer on February 19, 2016, 08:46:03 AM
Plastisol colors = International coatings
Plastisol Whites = International coatings

Plastisol Black = Wilflex

WB white = matsui / CCI
WB colors = Sericol / CCI
Title: Re: What ink brand are you using and why
Post by: UnderPressureSP on February 19, 2016, 09:47:45 AM
We our a water base shop.
Discharge we use CCI white and sericol ink for our colors.
HSA we use Magna bases for color and virus for our white. 
Black we use Green Galaxy if there is no trapping and CCI spot black if there is trapping. 
Poster ink I use TW graphics 5500 series.   
These were the best brand we tested out. 
As far as color match sericol fails but I pretty good at keep track of my new recipes.
Magna is spot on for color matching and when we are off its user error most of the time.  Also it prints well.
Tw graphics ink I print because it looks good and does not give me a headache like solvent ink.   
Title: Re: What ink brand are you using and why
Post by: Colin on February 19, 2016, 10:08:01 AM
Plastisol:

Rutland C3 Mixing System
Rutland SF white - Silky if their formula gets fixed...
Custom Black ink with Rutland Group Components.

Water Base:

Rutland Pigment Discharge system - It works.

HSA:

Rutland for our current small group of colors and Black.
Currently using Green Galaxy and about to try Matsui for White.

We use Rutland products because of the awesome help and support of Kelly and Christine at RC Screen Supply.  You cant get that from the other large distributor in the North West.
Title: Re: What ink brand are you using and why
Post by: willy35 on March 03, 2016, 07:12:00 PM
HSA we use Magna bases for color and virus for our white. 

Could you please tell me what the name of the product range from magna ? Is it aquaflex ?

Thanks
Title: Re: What ink brand are you using and why
Post by: UnderPressureSP on March 03, 2016, 08:36:12 PM
We use a mix of Advanced Print TDB Neutral and AquaPlas FF White plus pigments and retarder for our mix.  It is opaque HSA ink with a under base.  Its the aqua flex series. 

We also use magna HB Opaque/neutral for any light garment/tonal work with high mesh prints. 
Title: Re: What ink brand are you using and why
Post by: Lizard on March 03, 2016, 09:05:11 PM
Rutland.  About 10 or so years ago I went to a full day semilar at their plant and learned a ton. It was free and I gained a ton of knowledge. That was before I was even printing. I was so impressed that they have been our go to ink ever since.  And the fact that they are less than 10 miles from us seals the deal.  Their tech support is pretty darn good too.