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General => General Discussion and ??? => Topic started by: tonypep on October 21, 2011, 01:18:03 PM
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Well there goes the weekend. 20,000 black shirts just hit, two sided print so 40K impressions need in five days. White ink. At first the blank was going to be Next Level which don't typically discharge well. Then due to lack of availability switched to Gildan. Yay! One screen, nothing to register, set up in seconds, one pass, no flash, no flash dwell. Ink cost reduced by 65%. Saved on electricity.
BTW a little bird told me CCI is actively working on pigments. Should be available in 2-3 months. And they will be sold in dispensible containers.
Erin are you reading this?
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That is a great Job. Is CCI discharge better than Matsui?
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Hmm, next level doesn't discharge well. that is good to know.
Tony, do you change off contact for discharge?
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Well there goes the weekend. 20,000 black shirts just hit, two sided print so 40K impressions need in five days. White ink. At first the blank was going to be Next Level which don't typically discharge well. Then due to lack of availability switched to Gildan. Yay! One screen, nothing to register, set up in seconds, one pass, no flash, no flash dwell. Ink cost reduced by 65%. Saved on electricity.
BTW a little bird told me CCI is actively working on pigments. Should be available in 2-3 months. And they will be sold in dispensible containers.
Erin are you reading this?
I heard the same thing from my Rep.
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Can't say across the board but yes so far on the Next lLevel. Plus they like to play the bait and switch at times. Matsui has fine products but they tend to over complicate things with additives and modifiers. With CCI, Rutland, Wilflex, and others it's Base+Pigment+Activator. Add water as necessary. It's stupid quick and easy. And CCI has the best and cheapest white and base ever made IMO. Around $27 per gallon for the white.
$22 for the base. No need to change off contact either.
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Can't say across the board but yes so far on the Next lLevel. Plus they like to play the bait and switch at times. Matsui has fine products but they tend to over complicate things with additives and modifiers. With CCI, Rutland, Wilflex, and others it's Base+Pigment+Activator. Add water as necessary. It's stupid quick and easy. And CCI has the best and cheapest white and base ever made IMO. Around $27 per gallon for the white.
$22 for the base. No need to change off contact either.
Wow that is cheap. Thanks for the info.
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Can't say across the board but yes so far on the Next lLevel. Plus they like to play the bait and switch at times. Matsui has fine products but they tend to over complicate things with additives and modifiers. With CCI, Rutland, Wilflex, and others it's Base+Pigment+Activator. Add water as necessary. It's stupid quick and easy. And CCI has the best and cheapest white and base ever made IMO. Around $27 per gallon for the white.
$22 for the base. No need to change off contact either.
Absolutely. It is the best and the cheapest at that. Works great. And yeah, Next Levels are always a pain with discharge. Hold next to a Gildan or AA and they are waaaay off in color.
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Can't say across the board but yes so far on the Next lLevel. Plus they like to play the bait and switch at times. Matsui has fine products but they tend to over complicate things with additives and modifiers. With CCI, Rutland, Wilflex, and others it's Base+Pigment+Activator. Add water as necessary. It's stupid quick and easy. And CCI has the best and cheapest white and base ever made IMO. Around $27 per gallon for the white.
$22 for the base. No need to change off contact either.
Absolutely. It is the best and the cheapest at that. Works great. And yeah, Next Levels are always a pain with discharge. Hold next to a Gildan or AA and they are waaaay off in color.
Is that all the colors? They call the black shirt "Discharge - Black"?
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tony, I would love to stop by your shop sometime. I might even buy you lunch and let you drive my Camry...or the 1992 conversion van. ;D
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Sure but lets wait till I get this order out por favor........lets talk next week.
tp
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Well Tony there goes your Football weekend, but I would rather make money too have fun!!!!
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Hey Tony where you getting 20,000 black tees?, hell we can't hardly get 100 black tees from our suppliers. black has been the color so far this year what gives.
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Well Tony there goes your Football weekend, but I would rather make money too have fun!!!!
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Hey Tony where you getting 20,000 black tees?, hell we can't hardly get 100 black tees from our suppliers. black has been the color so far this year what gives.
Hey D..... I just checked S&S (Chicago)... they have over 50,000 in each size (S to 2XL). Price $2.64 and free shipping.
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Hell yes on the pigments!!!!
Damn near close to one supplier. Really my only other consumables are pallet paper
and tape.
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Can't say across the board but yes so far on the Next lLevel. Plus they like to play the bait and switch at times. Matsui has fine products but they tend to over complicate things with additives and modifiers. With CCI, Rutland, Wilflex, and others it's Base+Pigment+Activator. Add water as necessary. It's stupid quick and easy. And CCI has the best and cheapest white and base ever made IMO. Around $27 per gallon for the white.
$22 for the base. No need to change off contact either.
Where do you buy that for $27 a gallon? The only place I found it online is Ryonet and they want mid 40s
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Nazdar perhaps?
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Can't say across the board but yes so far on the Next lLevel. Plus they like to play the bait and switch at times. Matsui has fine products but they tend to over complicate things with additives and modifiers. With CCI, Rutland, Wilflex, and others it's Base+Pigment+Activator. Add water as necessary. It's stupid quick and easy. And CCI has the best and cheapest white and base ever made IMO. Around $27 per gallon for the white.
$22 for the base. No need to change off contact either.
Where do you buy that for $27 a gallon? The only place I found it online is Ryonet and they want mid 40s
I apologize for posting prices. That was inappropiate. Can't speak for the distributors.
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Well it's 8:00 am and since I'm tied here for at least a couple of hours and everything is on autopilot I'll make this boring post. Some of you have p-mailed me about processing large orders so here it is.
At first glance this seems pretty straightforward. One color white front/back 20,000 pcs. But wait, it's for mens and womens bodies with a reduction in the graphic. Not a huge deal but......we have to ship in "pulses" meaning the order is on fire and they need as much as possible by Monday morning in both genders and across all sizes. A second shipment Tuesday and the balance the next day. It would have been nice if it was an even size scale but no. So for this weekend we have a very specific pull, with the mediums being the largest quantity. The "luxury" of being here all weekend is that we can attack the order in a bit more orderly fashion. Four presses, two on fronts, two on backs. The two outer presses on backs while the inner ones are on fronts. There is a method to this madness and it's all about minimizing the footprint. Everyone running the same size until complete, then on to the next and so on. After all the truck won't be here till Monday.
Meanwhile at 7:30 as the pull begins the press ops are all vigorously scrubbing screens and shaking there heads. As I was distracted I neglected to explain in my best (which is bad) Spanish that this graphic was trying to simulate chalkboard writing. After several Spanglish moments and amusing gestures all was understood.
So that's my morning so far. We are blessed to have a loyal and honest crew where, once settled in, we can leave the factory and return at closing to lock up. So there is some time for football. Tomorrow we will step and repeat although that should be pretty smooth sailing.
To everyone have a great weekend and SGIA show for those attending.
signing off tp
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really stupid question -when I do a discharge print, I wash the shirts first so they can wear right away -I am safely assuming you don't? Do you put a hang tag with wash before wear on it or assume people will always do just that?
I'm having a bit of trouble getting my colors to "pop". .always so flat, I guess my percentages are off. . maybe I should try the CCI and ditch the matsui.
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really stupid question -when I do a discharge print, I wash the shirts first so they can wear right away -I am safely assuming you don't? Do you put a hang tag with wash before wear on it or assume people will always do just that?
I'm having a bit of trouble getting my colors to "pop". .always so flat, I guess my percentages are off. . maybe I should try the CCI and ditch the matsui.
I am probably going to get killed for this but all garments should be washed before being worn. Discharge or not. Ever seen a dye factory and how garments get their color? Hell, you should wash out the inside of your brand new car and drive with all the windows down for a month or two until that new car smell is gone. You know what that smell is? You don't wanna know. I read a list of the chemicals some time ago and I am sure you can Google it. Its not good and made discharge printing look like roses. But I am getting off point now. We do notify all of our clients wholesale and retail but the very very large orders for us like Tony's the client already knows the deal. Then its up to them when we do the hangtag and polybag whether or not they slap a sticker on there informing the public. Either way just cover your ass with a signed form of consent if needed.
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Don't forget this warning as well, just to CYA.