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screen printing => General Screen Printing => Topic started by: Logoman on May 30, 2016, 07:43:45 AM
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I have seen this on the boards but can't find it. I would like to print words that look like they are individual letters on a white freyed background. I think a&f does this but it is an actual patch. Any ideas?
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This is a specialty ink and art issue. Rick from Mirror image (Ink Kitchen) is the kid for specialty inks. Dot Tone Dan would be my pick for the art.
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Do you mean something like these 3-d effect from Rutland?
http://www.rutlandinc.com/products/screen-printing-products/tips-techniques/fauxchenille.aspx (http://www.rutlandinc.com/products/screen-printing-products/tips-techniques/fauxchenille.aspx)
http://www.rutlandinc.com/products/screen-printing-products/tips-techniques/stitcheddenim.aspx (http://www.rutlandinc.com/products/screen-printing-products/tips-techniques/stitcheddenim.aspx)
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This is a specialty ink and art issue. Rick from Mirror image (Ink Kitchen) is the kid for specialty inks. Dot Tone Dan would be my pick for the art.
sorry but no..
Lon Winters and Jason Ballash are the specialty gurus and the ones who coined the phrase 'if you make it something it isn't, it always works' in reference to the faux patches, the faux embroidery and the faux jersey label printed to look like a sewn patch that he designed and used as show and type material for years that is now part of his art package.
http://www.graphicelephants.com/ (http://www.graphicelephants.com/)
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Do you mean something like these 3-d effect from Rutland?
[url]http://www.rutlandinc.com/products/screen-printing-products/tips-techniques/fauxchenille.aspx[/url] ([url]http://www.rutlandinc.com/products/screen-printing-products/tips-techniques/fauxchenille.aspx[/url])
[url]http://www.rutlandinc.com/products/screen-printing-products/tips-techniques/stitcheddenim.aspx[/url] ([url]http://www.rutlandinc.com/products/screen-printing-products/tips-techniques/stitcheddenim.aspx[/url])
Exactly! The first sample, the faux Chenille is something i've printed many times.
As for ink.. two specialties.
blister base (may have a twill or chenille base as well) and high density.
the blister creates the bubbly look of twill and the high density creates the raised stitching look.
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John, kinda yes. Ya see, Rick (can) print that and has, and would do it to perfection, but that's not normally his business. You can and probably have done so many times yourself.
As for art and seps on this, I've done it both ways, flat screen print non 3D and specialty ink 3D. You do need special attention to how it gets separated for 3D. You must accommodate for stacking layers (chocking in a little as you stack higher and line weight and ink thickness are all to be considered.
Rick and myself are not near the first to do this. Many others not named and many that we don't know if have mastered it and I don't remember the fist guy to have claimed to master it, but that's been so long ago, (25+ years) it's not relevant anymore.
Now that I think about it, the first guy to apply it to art, got the idea from Wilflex who sold the HD ink to companies that printed the ink as large dots onto the palms of work gloves for extra gripping.
Most people do this in vector since there are not many halftones or blending going on. Myself, when I was doing it, I did simulat f full color process on top of the HD, puff and psued. Sometimes even crystalline mixed in.
For stitching, you can draw a path or your stitching and use a solid line and six zag in and out over the solid type. On the inside, come in maybe about a 1/32 or more and work with spreading out your outline to be a dash to look more like a stitch. Adjust corners accordingly. I typically would extend my path in and out overtop of the border of the type.
If your stitch is to be a 3D ink, then copy that, paste behind and fill with white and stroke it about .5-1pt depending on the swell of the ink. Your trying to create a gap and avoid laying that ink half way on top of another and allow for swell (as in puff ink).
There are many ways to approach the separations depending on where and when you want the ink printed. It's pretty much common sense.
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Rick and Tom did this at the ISS show in LB this year. Very cool look and many didn't believe it was printed, insisting that was an applique (it wasn't ). If you look back at their website you can get a look at it.
Lon and Jason also do this very well and would probably be more then willing to talk with anyone about the process.
But, what Dan said is on point, and things as usual take some testing.
Murphy
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This is kind of what I am thinking of but different words.
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Easy Peasy for that.
It's a printed distress image and then embroidered on
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that reminds me of suede base, and the art could be a chosen font with a good illustrator adding realistic threads...
Steve
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I've done it for bands and airport retail probably around 10 ys ago. Specialty inks and Cap film.
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More than one way to achieve that look but Rick Roth had the best description on printing those effects.
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I did this a few years ago (If i am able to attach. I'm kinda slow)
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I did this a few years ago (If i am able to attach. I'm kinda slow)
Wicked nice as we say around here...
Steve
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Wait a second Dave learned how to attach a photo? there goes the neighborhood.
Nice example. Nice print.
Murphy
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4 color process DC and DC UB for Kenneth. These are ys old so no....not lately. Can't post those