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Title: C drive efficiency?
Post by: Dottonedan on September 28, 2016, 11:17:44 AM
I am often trying to find where my space is being taken up on my C drive and clearing it out.

I've got a full backup to an external.

I store all work files and documents on another external.

The only thing I keep on my C drive is applications and the required Windows stuff.

I'd love to me able to view "folder size" to help see where this is building without having to go into each and get properties. So far, I can't change folder setup prefs to show folder size. That's not the biggest problem tho.

I can't seem to get my HD space down below the RED zone when I'm not adding anything to it.

One can easily say, "get a bigger HD"  but I still go back to (I'm not adding any programs or anything on here) for this to increase.
Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: jvanick on September 28, 2016, 11:36:21 AM
this is an excellent tool for figuring out where storage is being consumed.

https://windirstat.net/ (https://windirstat.net/)

Be VERY careful when deleting stuff on c: (especially in the windows directory) unless you know exactly what it is.
Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: Frog on September 28, 2016, 11:50:55 AM
I went through this a few months back with a now-seemingly-wimpy 128 solid state C drive. There are plenty of sites with tips on what to clean and how, but I seem to remember dumping temporary files and restore points, and emptying the recycle folder helped me.
The built-in Disk Clean Up in System tools made it pretty easy and also showed what you could expect to gain before ever starting.
Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: mimosatexas on September 28, 2016, 12:41:02 PM
this is an excellent tool for figuring out where storage is being consumed.

https://windirstat.net/ (https://windirstat.net/)

Be VERY careful when deleting stuff on c: (especially in the windows directory) unless you know exactly what it is.

This and Everything Search are two of the tools I install immediately on any new system or after a reformat (https://www.voidtools.com/ (https://www.voidtools.com/))
Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: BorisB on September 28, 2016, 12:52:03 PM
I like this tool:
http://www.diskspacefan.com
Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: jsheridan on September 28, 2016, 04:18:04 PM
Operating system drive you probably have a very large page file and/or other system Reserve space that matches your physical memory.

Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: Dottonedan on September 28, 2016, 04:35:32 PM
Operating system drive you probably have a very large page file and/or other system Reserve space that matches your physical memory.

Well, the odd thing about that is, yes, I have 8gb ram. My page file size is 8gb.   SO I read online how to assign that to be saved to another drive with more room...and I did that,  but the page file still stays on my C dive at 8gb.
Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: Dottonedan on September 28, 2016, 04:40:56 PM
I went through this a few months back with a now-seemingly-wimpy 128 solid state C drive. There are plenty of sites with tips on what to clean and how, but I seem to remember dumping temporary files and restore points, and emptying the recycle folder helped me.
The built-in Disk Clean Up in System tools made it pretty easy and also showed what you could expect to gain before ever starting.

Thanks, I've done all that as well.  I never keep anything in the trash folder. Deletes instantly.  Then, I've also ran disk clean, defrag etc. All looks good.
Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: Dottonedan on September 28, 2016, 05:49:52 PM
That was it fellas!

Application Data/Local/Temp/Files

I took out the Photoshop files and bavoom!  Instantly cleared out my 17 Gigs of my space. That one file at the bottom was 6gb alone. I still have 2gb total being taken up but I can live with that for a while. Wasn't sure if I can delete those other things.

Are these all temp files that can be trashed?  Why does it hold onto those?

THANKS A MILLION!!!
Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: Frog on September 28, 2016, 06:40:37 PM
Whenever I got an otherwise simple vector file as a PS from some digital DaVinci with a bootleg copy of Photoshop, I would joke that even a blank page makes for an unnecessarily huge file in Photoshop!
I'm sure that you had some monsters.
Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: Dottonedan on September 28, 2016, 08:05:48 PM
I've had a few big files but it's been a very long time since anything that huge. Like have I had this thing hanging in there for 3-5 years?
Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: screenxpress on September 28, 2016, 10:15:52 PM
I use free aps from sourceforge

This one is called foldersize

https://sourceforge.net/projects/foldersize/files/foldersize/2.6/FolderSize-2.6-x64.msi/download (https://sourceforge.net/projects/foldersize/files/foldersize/2.6/FolderSize-2.6-x64.msi/download)
Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: Squeegie on September 30, 2016, 11:07:16 AM
Glad you got it figured out Dan....BUT, a 136 GB C: partition is pretty small. Especially when you have all that available space elsewhere.
Not sure what the specs are of your drivesare, but a nice 250 GB or 500 GB SSD as your boot/C: drive would make your system come to life.


Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: Frog on September 30, 2016, 11:24:04 AM
Glad you got it figured out Dan....BUT, a 136 GB C: partition is pretty small. Especially when you have all that available space elsewhere.
Not sure what the specs are of your drivesare, but a nice 250 GB or 500 GB SSD as your boot/C: drive would make your system come to life.

A few years back, SSD's were not as affordable as today, and 128 drives for the C were pretty common. That's my predicament.

Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: Admiral on September 30, 2016, 03:31:59 PM
Make sure your Photoshop scratch disk isn't on the C:\

Someones computer was full and inoperable (couldn't save a file anywhere even though it was on the network even) because it took up all of the free space of the drive.  The artists have a SSD for programs then 1TB drive with a lot of partitions for scratch disks, backup, etc.
Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: blue moon on September 30, 2016, 04:42:36 PM
Glad you got it figured out Dan....BUT, a 136 GB C: partition is pretty small. Especially when you have all that available space elsewhere.
Not sure what the specs are of your drivesare, but a nice 250 GB or 500 GB SSD as your boot/C: drive would make your system come to life.

A few years back, SSD's were not as affordable as today, and 128 drives for the C were pretty common. That's my predicament.

by a Crucial drive, it comes with a utility that will transfer everything to your new drive. You can be up and running with a bigger drive with very little headache. I think it took two reboots and a software install.

pierre
Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: GraphicDisorder on September 30, 2016, 05:17:54 PM
Glad you got it figured out Dan....BUT, a 136 GB C: partition is pretty small. Especially when you have all that available space elsewhere.
Not sure what the specs are of your drivesare, but a nice 250 GB or 500 GB SSD as your boot/C: drive would make your system come to life.

A few years back, SSD's were not as affordable as today, and 128 drives for the C were pretty common. That's my predicament.

by a Crucial drive, it comes with a utility that will transfer everything to your new drive. You can be up and running with a bigger drive with very little headache. I think it took two reboots and a software install.

pierre

Intel and Samsung drives also come with cloning tools, super easy.
Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: Frog on September 30, 2016, 05:28:36 PM
Glad you got it figured out Dan....BUT, a 136 GB C: partition is pretty small. Especially when you have all that available space elsewhere.
Not sure what the specs are of your drivesare, but a nice 250 GB or 500 GB SSD as your boot/C: drive would make your system come to life.

A few years back, SSD's were not as affordable as today, and 128 drives for the C were pretty common. That's my predicament.

by a Crucial drive, it comes with a utility that will transfer everything to your new drive. You can be up and running with a bigger drive with very little headache. I think it took two reboots and a software install.

pierre

Intel and Samsung drives also come with cloning tools, super easy.

Won't they all also require some sort of usb/SATA adapter or Drive Dock or something?
Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: Gilligan on September 30, 2016, 06:15:24 PM
Glad you got it figured out Dan....BUT, a 136 GB C: partition is pretty small. Especially when you have all that available space elsewhere.
Not sure what the specs are of your drivesare, but a nice 250 GB or 500 GB SSD as your boot/C: drive would make your system come to life.

A few years back, SSD's were not as affordable as today, and 128 drives for the C were pretty common. That's my predicament.

by a Crucial drive, it comes with a utility that will transfer everything to your new drive. You can be up and running with a bigger drive with very little headache. I think it took two reboots and a software install.

pierre

Intel and Samsung drives also come with cloning tools, super easy.

Won't they all also require some sort of usb/SATA adapter or Drive Dock or something?

Unless it's a laptop you should have multiple SATA ports internally.
Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: Wildcard on October 01, 2016, 06:31:27 AM
I just transferred over to ssd on my laptop and desktop and it is well worthwhile for the speed boost. The cloning software with the Samsung drives was pretty good to use. I used an external drive enclosure to clone the drive before switching them around.
Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: Prōdigium on November 27, 2016, 07:08:12 AM
One sneaky and often overlooked waster of hard drive space in Windows systems is in fact the trash can itself.

Right click on your recycle bin logo and click properties, you will see how much space the trash is "reserving" on your hard drive, and note that it will retain the same space for EVERY partition as well. You can change the size, apply to all partitions and reboot.
Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: Jay Kay on December 15, 2016, 10:08:30 PM
I know this thread is a little older Dan, but do you have an Nvidia graphics card? I know those driver installs can leave GIGS worth of temp files that can safely be deleted after installation. Just a heads up to anyone with Nvidia cards looking to free up space.
Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: Dottonedan on December 15, 2016, 11:02:43 PM
Yes,  it is an Nvidia.  That reminds me to check that again and delete some out. I only took out the big ones last time and cleared me up very well.  Thanks!
Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: Dottonedan on May 07, 2017, 11:56:58 AM
Same issue again.  I've removed some large files from the Application Data/Local/Temp/Files folder, but still too full.

I have these 16gb page files but not sure if I can just remove them. I tried relocating it to another drive and it's assigned to the other drive but still shows up on the C drive as the 16 gb.

Can they just be deleted/cleared out and it rebuilds up again?
Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: ravenmark on May 07, 2017, 12:25:18 PM
Try manually cleaning out your Temp Folder. http://www.pcworld.com/article/2602104/windows/how-to-clean-your-windows-temp-folder.html (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2602104/windows/how-to-clean-your-windows-temp-folder.html) . Sometimes that will but you  some real-estate.
Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: Frog on May 07, 2017, 12:58:37 PM


One can easily say, "get a bigger HD"  but I still go back to (I'm not adding any programs or anything on here) for this to increase.

I don't know about Mac OS characteristics, but this definitely seems to come with the Windows territory. Like flypaper, things just seem to be attracted to and stick as time goes on.
The fact that this problem keeps returning is the reason that the suggestion of increasing the size of the "C" drive is really worth considering.
Also, an almost full drive does not perform as well as one only half full.
Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: Prōdigium on June 05, 2017, 04:32:15 AM
Same issue again.  I've removed some large files from the Application Data/Local/Temp/Files folder, but still too full.

I have these 16gb page files but not sure if I can just remove them. I tried relocating it to another drive and it's assigned to the other drive but still shows up on the C drive as the 16 gb.

Can they just be deleted/cleared out and it rebuilds up again?

In your system settings you can assign a page file to ANY drive or partition. You must select the manually manage the size, uncheck your C drive and select another drive. The page file will not be deleted until you reboot. I would also note that its better to put the page file on another hard drive, not just another partition of the same drive as C so you can squeeze out a little more performance, especially if its a SSD drive.

After that, you can run a little app called CC cleaner that can overwrite unused drive space...takes a lot of time, then defrag the drive. You will notice more performance and disk space. One note...I think 16G of page file is excessive unless your using a SSD. By using less page file your making your computer use RAM which is always faster then a normal hard drive. I also set my min & max to the same size (1.5x my RAM)  to flush the page file.
Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: mk162 on June 05, 2017, 08:51:42 AM
To which I would add, switch to an SSD.  It's like a new computer.
Title: Re: C drive efficiency?
Post by: Dottonedan on June 05, 2017, 09:20:22 AM
I believe it is a SSD. I'll have to check again to be sure but I think I checked on that one since someone else made the same comment.

 Then also, someone else mentioned same thing the prodigy did and I did that, but it may be a duplicate and is still running off the C Dr. Unless which is probably the more obvious answer Is that I did something out of sequence.