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screen printing => Screen Making => Topic started by: 3Deep on October 19, 2016, 04:01:25 PM
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Got some new screens in today, toss the meter on them 24 newton's great others 13 to 15 so I average out to 14. I was hoping higher so they could relax to that one day LOL so would you send them back? frames are 20 x 24 and 20 x 28 if that makes a difference in tension.
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Id say send them back.
Does whoever you bought them from say what tension you should expect?
This is the reason I stopped using pre made screens from my supplier. I get all of my screens from Spot Color, and ask them for high tension screens. They have never let me down.
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13 to 15 is garbage...
where did they come from?
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Yep, I'd hope for at least 20 with most of my 140-230 meshes
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I would send back and request higher tension. If higher tension cant be achieved - get a new supplier.
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Another vote for sending em back. Hopefully it was a mistake by your supplier and they'll make it right.
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Yeah the company is a great company can't bash them, just not bought new screens in a bit and really never had a tension meter to check tension back in the days, I'm sure they will correct it with no problem.
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Yup, personally I would use Spot Color. Their screens are really good, like really really good.
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send them back is my vote also.You don't want to start with low one in the begining
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Brannon and Scott do a great job and A+customer svc. Used them for a long time. In app 2 wks time however; we'll be printing with tensions btwn 25-50 after work hardening.......that should be interesting. Looking forward to observing results
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Brannon and Scott do a great job and A+customer svc. Used them for a long time. In app 2 wks time however; we'll be printing with tensions btwn 25-50 after work hardening.......that should be interesting. Looking forward to observing results
you going roller frames?
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4-5 years ago I had 3 orders come in in mid teens on a new screens.
Returned all three of them and went Newman. I still have some aluminum and wood ones laying around that I use for a simple prints with dark colors.
But since then, I did not buy a single static frame.
Newmans with Shur-Lok mesh panels.
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Brannon and Scott do a great job and A+customer svc. Used them for a long time. In app 2 wks time however; we'll be printing with tensions btwn 25-50 after work hardening.......that should be interesting. Looking forward to observing results
you going roller frames?
Yes
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Brannon and Scott do a great job and A+customer svc. Used them for a long time. In app 2 wks time however; we'll be printing with tensions btwn 25-50 after work hardening.......that should be interesting. Looking forward to observing results
you going roller frames?
Yes
new shop, new gear, new print techniques...
I'll be very interested to hear your opinions of living in both worlds...
I assume more plastisol now as well then?
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Brannon and Scott do a great job and A+customer svc. Used them for a long time. In app 2 wks time however; we'll be printing with tensions btwn 25-50 after work hardening.......that should be interesting. Looking forward to observing results
Tony with rollers.. never thought i'd see the day 8)
they'll be all over the place to match the variance in tension.
shoot for 30 across the board, no need for more than that with today's mesh.
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We're also having this problem and with the cost of screens, we decided on doing it ourselves. Never had a screen coming with over 23 newtons, they should be at ~30
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Brannon and Scott do a great job and A+customer svc. Used them for a long time. In app 2 wks time however; we'll be printing with tensions btwn 25-50 after work hardening.......that should be interesting. Looking forward to observing results
Tony with rollers.. never thought i'd see the day 8)
they'll be all over the place to match the variance in tension.
shoot for 30 across the board, no need for more than that with today's mesh.
I was waiting for that John! This a brand new facility with brand new everything so no transition issues though I'm sure a few overcomeable obstacles
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Tension is mesh specific. Take 150S. My chart says 18-28. At 28 you are at risk of popping the mesh. Any more and the mesh stages, or doesnt get any tighter, just more fragile as threads are pulled to the max. At 22 you will still have excellent prints, but also have a screen that is less prone to popping. At 28 if you were to degrease and set in the hot Socal sun the frame can expand and increase tension.
If you want 30 newtons stick with T mesh, or go the chart and find a mesh that can accept a 30 newton tension.
For Newmans, especially older beat up newmans, I recommend panels to avoid any dents or nicks on the channel that can rip fine mesh counts.
Newmans can withstand tensions of 30 or more. Statics can get up to 30 with the right beefy frames, but most statics will warp at high tensions unless they have a thick sidewall, most dont.
Al
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I just got my invoice from Spot Color on my restretches...i don't know why but I get so excited when I have good frames on the way, and theirs are great...so I am stoked. It's a funny thing to get excited about, but I can't wait to get them coated and in rotation.
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Brad I'm right there with ya, I like getting what I ordered, tight screens good inks etc ;)
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I just got my invoice from Spot Color on my restretches...i don't know why but I get so excited when I have good frames on the way, and theirs are great...so I am stoked. It's a funny thing to get excited about, but I can't wait to get them coated and in rotation.
I feel the same way. I never got excited about static frames until I started using spot color. Best statics out there. I love the perm. blockout also. Feel like it gives those sensitive edges some decent protection.