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screen printing => General Screen Printing => Topic started by: 3Deep on November 10, 2016, 04:54:00 PM
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For some reason this year we've been printing tons of hoodie's and the comfort color hoodie's are the worse, any one got any tips to keep these things in place without using spray mist. The regular glue just get's sucked up in just a round or two and the spray mist is fine, but it just gets all over the press which cause lint to stick and build up.
darryl
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I use the spray web tack for all hoodies, reapplied often. Have to change the pallet tape after every hoodie run as well.
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yep, lots of us otherwise waterbased stickum users bite the bullet and go with web spray on fleece.
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I use the spray web tack for all hoodies, reapplied often. Have to change the pallet tape after every hoodie run as well.
Fastest way to make a hoodie job show up is to apply new pallet paper.
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If you really want to get around the tape changing, get an extra set of platens for hoods. Still need to change that tape for the thinner fashion hoodies but that can happen off press rather than on.
Tekmar makes wb glue that they say will work for fleece. It doesn't web and you need to apply it every 1-3 revolutions. We have a small amount to try but it's hard to sample since it would need to run in the big dispensing unit we have. The idea is you hang a gun over the platen on a tool balancer and apply it as needed.
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Boy I wish those spiky Dri Tack sheets (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JVvQGe2924) gave me more consistent results. I may dig 'em out, dust 'em off, and give 'em another try.
R Jennings sells 'em under the name Sweat Sheet (http://rjennings.3dcartstores.com/Sweatsheet-16-x-16_p_216.html)
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Wow, I thought I was the only one that thought of that. We have a set of four dedicated fleece pallets, and we run all fleece on the manual, where our air forced flash fits.
I worked at a contract shop in the early nineties that had the very same bulk setup. Works well, but overspray from wb adhesive is damn near impossible to remove or clean up.
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Yeah over spray is a concern there but you still get it with web. I like not having to find a place to hang the can of web. I found it in my quest to eliminate the cases of aerosol cans we rip through.
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Web tac applied sparingly works best for me.
No overspray but if you use to much, you can actually pull the paper with it.
Camie 385 is my go to web. CCI makes the stickiest web.
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on small runs we can go with tex tac and get away with it. Honestly if it's 50 pcs, its faster to glue them, clean them halfway through and reglue them than it is to ruin good tape with spray glue
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I'm sure it's different for me since I am printing on a manual with only 4 pallets to changeover, but changing tape really doesn't take very long usually. I use textac, and for hoodies I can maybe get two printer per pallet before they are shifting like crazy, and thats assuming the glue is fresh and really piled on. I just think the time involved in cleaning pallets every two pieces is more than changing the tape at the end of a run, but again that's for my setup.
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Turn on a flash..
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We are flashing for that matter using two flashes, so how does that help?
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3m Super 77 bro. I've taken people's advice trying all this other stuff, super 77 is always the best for us any way. "and no it doesn't stick to the garments, unless you throw a shirt or hoodie on it when "any" spray tac is soaking wet". ;) ;)
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We are flashing for that matter using two flashes, so how does that help?
With the water based adhesives like the TexTac mentioned in the post that RStefanik responded to, the heat actually helps the stick, not weakens it like the spray cans.
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Thanks Frog, I knew that I thought he might have known something new I didn't, but you know how fleece is, the build up kills the tack in a round or two.
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I'm sure it's different for me since I am printing on a manual with only 4 pallets to changeover, but changing tape really doesn't take very long usually. I use textac, and for hoodies I can maybe get two printer per pallet before they are shifting like crazy, and thats assuming the glue is fresh and really piled on. I just think the time involved in cleaning pallets every two pieces is more than changing the tape at the end of a run, but again that's for my setup.
MHM's are 12 pallets and I thought took forever but now the ROQ is 16 and it seriously seems like forrrreeeevvvvvveeeerrrrrr.
We have a set of 14" pallets that generally stay "fleece ready" but of course up comes 16" prints and sleeves. It's like keeping backstock.
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We are flashing for that matter using two flashes, so how does that help?
it keeps the pallets warm and the tack stickier as Andy already mentioned..I do like and use the 3m 77. It is the best out there even though its more expensive it works so good you spray less so the yield makes it actually cheaper. And as we all know less spraying means cleaner presses, floors and lessens paper changes.