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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: Nitrox73 on December 02, 2016, 07:05:18 PM

Title: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: Nitrox73 on December 02, 2016, 07:05:18 PM
We have been running non-stop trying to keep up with our manuals and quite frankly, falling behind everyday with increases orders. Pulled the trigger today and went with the Sabre. Now the waiting begins...

Any crazy tips or ideas while I count down the days? Biggest question, how long did it take before you was really comfortable with it?
Title: Re: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: kingscreen on December 02, 2016, 07:14:13 PM
Biggest question, how long did it take before you was really comfortable with it?

About 10 minutes.

Congrats!! You're going to love it. 
Title: Re: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: mt_signex on December 02, 2016, 07:29:57 PM
I agree with king, I'd never go back to manual or my old auto after the Sabre, only suggestion is to hire a motivated person to run quality control and fold for you, because that press will work you to death with its speed :)
Title: Re: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: Gilligan on December 03, 2016, 11:27:33 AM
Well, it's not blazing fast... but it's definitely fast enough!

Yeah, we were good with ours pretty  much right away.
Title: Re: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: Nitrox73 on December 03, 2016, 12:02:48 PM
Thanks, they said when they leave we would be ready to crank it up. The shop is getting backlogged and being shut down for a few days isn't going to help things.

How much room did you leave to work around it?
Title: Re: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: Gilligan on December 03, 2016, 03:33:31 PM
Thanks, they said when they leave we would be ready to crank it up. The shop is getting backlogged and being shut down for a few days isn't going to help things.

How much room did you leave to work around it?

We are tight 19' wide.

So we pretty much "comfortably" slide passed the heads by the wall. Lol

So heads 4,5, and 6 are trickier to get to but no me really complains.
Title: Re: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: Prints Charming on December 05, 2016, 12:50:13 AM
How many flashbacks did you order.I suggest you get 2 now. We one got one and then had to order a second one.
Title: Re: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: Nitrox73 on December 23, 2016, 04:14:27 PM
Sweet Jesus this thing is amazing!

https://youtu.be/_ooWuMSzO9w
Title: Re: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: Prints Charming on December 23, 2016, 04:31:36 PM
congrats. If you get the double squeege from Action you only have to hit once, flash ,print.
Title: Re: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: Gilligan on December 23, 2016, 05:42:53 PM
I'll sell you ours.

I'd suggest working with your whites though... we are printing with a sabre and we have ours running FULL out on the white print... rarely are we double stroking and even if we do, it's not as painful since it's as fast as it can go.
Title: Re: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: Printficient on December 23, 2016, 05:56:16 PM
Double Bevels.  All the way around.
Title: Re: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: Gabe on December 24, 2016, 01:24:32 PM
I haven`t seen it first hand. But from the videos it looks like a nice intuitive piece of equipment.
congrats!

ps. Please give us some insights later.

sincerely
Gabe.
Title: Re: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: mt_signex on December 24, 2016, 11:47:34 PM
congrats. If you get the double squeege from Action you only have to hit once, flash ,print.

I thought this, in reality I couldn't make it work, mine is collecting dust.  The press I love, but the double squeegee just didn't perform.

Glad you got the new press installed, no doubt you'll keep loving it!  It's the best investment I've made in years.


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Title: Re: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: blue moon on December 26, 2016, 09:28:45 AM
congrats!
Santa will come a little late, but hey, better late than never!!!

pierre
Title: Re: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: acescreen on January 12, 2017, 12:02:11 AM
Nice! Welcome to the family!
Title: Re: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: mimosatexas on January 12, 2017, 08:08:22 AM
very cool! As otgers mentioned, gotta optimize that white. look into s-mesh and find a better white ink. lots of discussion aboutbboth on the forums.
Title: Re: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: K-BOB on January 12, 2017, 09:50:26 AM
dumb question but... how dose the flashback not dry the ink in the screen? wouldn't the heat from that give you problems? Just wondering?
Title: Re: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: jvanick on January 12, 2017, 10:03:55 AM
dumb question but... how dose the flashback not dry the ink in the screen? wouldn't the heat from that give you problems? Just wondering?

there are reflectors on the bulbs from the flashback but more importantly is there are high speed fans that blow under the screen to make sure the ink doesn't cure in the screen, as well as cool the surface of the shirt.
Title: Re: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: heray11 on March 01, 2017, 02:42:29 PM
whgo did your install?
Title: Re: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: Nation03 on March 01, 2017, 04:05:29 PM
dumb question but... how dose the flashback not dry the ink in the screen? wouldn't the heat from that give you problems? Just wondering?

That's one of my concerns. I'm new to the flashback so I was thinking for extra protection I would use some thick foil to lay on top of the element and then foil tape them in place. Not sure if it will do anything, but maybe it will keep more of the heat reflected away from the screen.
Title: Re: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: heray11 on March 01, 2017, 05:33:13 PM
 Hello;
  My name is Howard Ray. I was a tech for Workhorse and TUF products, where the F/B was invented in 1992.
  The tin foil is a way of helping the reflection of the heat down. But, only fold it to conform to the deflectors. If you use tape, the heat will make the tape turn loose.
 Also, get you some screen wire fiber mesh and fold it over the blower motors housing, especially at the open spot  between the two blowers.
  Then when the lint is flying around it wont go on the fan blades. You can either clean the mesh or replace it. Make sure its the fiber type
   Another suggestion. watch the distance between the top of the flashand the bottom of the screen. Sometimes if your doing goodies, and are putting down white, youmight find that you could raise the screen with 4 nickles or a paint stick. Also, make sure the f/b unit is running parrell with the screen.

  I am sure you were shown how to do this by raising or lowering the wheels.
 Also, be aware of the way the return switch on the elem tray is mouunter. The skinny metal actuator need to be pointed toward the center of the press. If it isn't the bracket sometimes stopps short and it f/b wont return to the home position, and cud possibly burn a shirt and or tthe screen.
  If you have any qquestions about the f/b  , feel free to call me  Howard Ray  713 344 8604   on any subject
Title: Re: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: spotcolorsupply on March 01, 2017, 08:27:56 PM
dumb question but... how dose the flashback not dry the ink in the screen? wouldn't the heat from that give you problems? Just wondering?

That's one of my concerns. I'm new to the flashback so I was thinking for extra protection I would use some thick foil to lay on top of the element and then foil tape them in place. Not sure if it will do anything, but maybe it will keep more of the heat reflected away from the screen.
Tin foil shouldn't be necessary. As long as the reflectors are in good shape, and the fan filters are not clogged. Reflectors are a maintenance part, and should be replaced every year or two.
Title: Re: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: kingscreen on March 01, 2017, 10:18:09 PM
We run two Sabres with Flashbacks. Never had an issue with ink drying in the screen due to the flashback.  If that's an issue, you're likely running too slow and overflashing/dwelling the flags under the screen too long.
Title: Re: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: Nation03 on March 02, 2017, 09:39:03 AM
I think my bigger concern is that much heat running close to s-thread mesh. I'm sure it works fine, but I wanted to take any precaution i could to prevent the heat from popping the screens.
Title: Re: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: merchmonster on March 03, 2017, 01:16:50 AM
The biggest issue with the flashbacks is:
Careless operators breaking bulbs forgetting to change the flashback from table down to table up mode
The stupid mesh covering the fans gets spray tack and lint covered fast. And takes long time to clean
Title: Re: New Workhorse Sabre
Post by: Prints Charming on March 10, 2017, 01:40:49 AM
Well, it's not blazing fast... but it's definitely fast enough!

Yeah, we were good with ours pretty  much right away.

Which white are you using