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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: LoneWolf2 on December 08, 2016, 03:36:58 PM
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Just ran across this video, i'm not really sure what to think of it, but it looks cool as hell. Wonder what the indexing speed would be :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVJznrYCii4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVJznrYCii4)
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cool idea. Would be worried about registration
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with my luck, I'd be walking by and it would shoot out and knock me in the nuts.
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ROTFLMAO
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I could see some uses, but damn is that slow.
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Think it is a cool idea, but I would think reg issues down the line.
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Not sure if I see any real world benefit to this...
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Should be able to park into some registration gates that could take care of that.
I'm with you Homie... someone is gonna get punched in the face!
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I want to see the gag reel for this...only matter of time until someone gets hit in the junk.
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I have to say good for Rick!
Hope it works well for him, great Guy.
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Great idea rick. INNOVATIVE.
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I think OSHA would have problem with pinch points with no guards, when the pallet is extended the gap between trailing edge of pallet and front edge of screen has a big gap.
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Interesting for sure, seem like to many moving parts on a press that already has to many moving parts, I see what they are trying to do in a market where one or two company's holds the patent on a very nice piece of equipment that's lets you use more of your press's printheads.
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So did he just say to combine this with an old Arrow Multi-printer, and you can turn your 10-color into a 20-color? Because that's what it sounded like. (Okay, maybe not that exactly... but he said something similar, right? )
Looks like a lot of interesting potential here, for the right people/situations.
I wonder if the flash can move at least as fast a Flashback, since accomplishes about the same thing (for flashing). I wonder what kind of production rates this thing could be capable of... and of course, is registration rock-solid...
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Main problem I see is that you still need a shuttle IR flash if you want to flash and print in the same head. Otherwise there is no cool down ability.
So that has that station sticking out like 6+ feet from the press. Maybe that works in some bigger spaces, but it would still be awkward.
But hey, I'm all for new innovative ideas like this!
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I don't know man, I guess a cool idea, but, imagine the pallet deflection on that after a while, not to mention 20 other things. Keeping up with service on top of existing stuff :o :o :o
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absolutely love innovation, and I applaude the efforts but I just can not see a use for this. way too slow and takes up way too much room, could you imagine powering 8 flash units around this thing? I guess for HSA but damn. . .I guarantee someone would be standing the wrong spot at the wrong time and wham! off to the nurses office.
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absolutely love innovation, and I applaude the efforts but I just can not see a use for this. way too slow and takes up way too much room, could you imagine powering 8 flash units around this thing? I guess for HSA but damn. . .I guarantee someone would be standing the wrong spot at the wrong time and wham! off to the nurses office.
Spot on! I think focus on support for current machines, and improvements in longevity of flash units ect would be better suited for RPM.
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I personally think it would have been better to make an optional "2nd lift" that would drop the carousel another couple inches to allow more room for a flashback. Much less floor space overall.
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Until Workhorse patent on the flashback is over, printing and flashing on the same head other companies are going to have to be very creative, but wait a friend of our's just bought a new Diamond back and it has a infrared flash that shuttles in and out, is that the same as a flashback hmm maybe not?
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The flash back allows you to print and flash on the same head. The flash shuttles in just below the screen.
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I'm curious what the index/piece per hour times are for a P-F-P with a Workhorse flashback, Anatol step back, RPM innie-outie, and just adding a second revolution to the print cycle.
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Flash back stroke is adjustable, so that time can be really small for just a left chest or tag print.
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Flash back stroke is adjustable, so that time can be really small for just a left chest or tag print.
Does your press show the pieces per hour you're running at with the flashback calced in?
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Getting back on the RPM heads, to me it looks like a way around another companies patent instead of the flashes shuttling in and out the head does, Homer might have this right if it makes in the field somebody is going to get hit from carelessness.
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Flash back stroke is adjustable, so that time can be really small for just a left chest or tag print.
Does your press show the pieces per hour you're running at with the flashback calced in?
Yes it does... it "knows" when a shirt is loaded and unloaded (not really, but it knows when you are SUPPOSED TO and assumes that you did your job). ;)
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Flash back stroke is adjustable, so that time can be really small for just a left chest or tag print.
Does your press show the pieces per hour you're running at with the flashback calced in?
Yes it does... it "knows" when a shirt is loaded and unloaded (not really, but it knows when you are SUPPOSED TO and assumes that you did your job). ;)
What are you typically finding your pieces per hour to be when doing a P-F-P using the flashback, assuming a one color print? Normal size print, not a left chest, just a typical 10-12" print.
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Flash back stroke is adjustable, so that time can be really small for just a left chest or tag print.
Does your press show the pieces per hour you're running at with the flashback calced in?
Yes it does... it "knows" when a shirt is loaded and unloaded (not really, but it knows when you are SUPPOSED TO and assumes that you did your job). ;)
What are you typically finding your pieces per hour to be when doing a P-F-P using the flashback, assuming a one color print? Normal size print, not a left chest, just a typical 10-12" print.
For us we would be somewhere slower around probably 12-14 dozen per hour using p/f/p. It is quicker and easier to run "rapid strokes" and do 2 rotations. Or even better run a second white screen. When we run 2 white screens and run the flash in table up mode, and with that we have ran 16" long prints at 39 dozen per hour.
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I'll have to ask the guys... We are pretty slow right now so they all asked to take off early and the bank account didn't mind.
It's not a speed demon by any means, even when not using the flash back... But it's plenty fast enough and certainly faster than manually printing. ;)
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Flash back stroke is adjustable, so that time can be really small for just a left chest or tag print.
Does your press show the pieces per hour you're running at with the flashback calced in?
Yes it does... it "knows" when a shirt is loaded and unloaded (not really, but it knows when you are SUPPOSED TO and assumes that you did your job). ;)
What are you typically finding your pieces per hour to be when doing a P-F-P using the flashback, assuming a one color print? Normal size print, not a left chest, just a typical 10-12" print.
For us we would be somewhere slower around probably 12-14 dozen per hour using p/f/p. It is quicker and easier to run "rapid strokes" and do 2 rotations. Or even better run a second white screen. When we run 2 white screens and run the flash in table up mode, and with that we have ran 16" long prints at 39 dozen per hour.
That feels about right for us... I pretty much NEVER print and only stick my nose in there to show them who's boss (kidding).
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I actually think the whole issue of hitting someone in the balls is probably unlikely as I would assume a stationary flash would be sitting in the way. Could happen, but probably won't randomly catch someone walking by the press.
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I actually think the whole issue of hitting someone in the balls is probably unlikely as I would assume a stationary flash would be sitting in the way. Could happen, but probably won't randomly catch someone walking by the press.
only when you hit a button and send the wrong head out to flash ;D my guys would do it just to mess with me...psst, hey watch this....
it is a different idea and I love thinking outside the box..
What we need for a flash is a bar, think like the LED light bar on the M&R DTS, a simple scan of the platen and flash complete. Like one super hot Quartz bulb. scan to the end of the head and slide up out of the way. . .
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Until Workhorse patent on the flashback is over, printing and flashing on the same head other companies are going to have to be very creative, but wait a friend of our's just bought a new Diamond back and it has a infrared flash that shuttles in and out, is that the same as a flashback hmm maybe not?
You can not print in the same head as the Reno HW. It shuttles in and out to not burn the pallets.
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What we need for a flash is a bar, think like the LED light bar on the M&R DTS, a simple scan of the platen and flash complete. Like one super hot Quartz bulb. scan to the end of the head and slide up out of the way. . .
Roq has one...
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I wonder what would happen if one of those arms connected with something fixed, like a pillar or wall. Seems obvious to avoid that issue but someone, somewhere would be stupid enough to place it badly and eject the wrong arm out.
Buckled print arm? No way it would tip the press, right?
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What we need for a flash is a bar, think like the LED light bar on the M&R DTS, a simple scan of the platen and flash complete. Like one super hot Quartz bulb. scan to the end of the head and slide up out of the way. . .
Roq has one...
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I have to see this, I bet Danny has one. That has has a Roq butt scratcher and beer holder.
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What we need for a flash is a bar, think like the LED light bar on the M&R DTS, a simple scan of the platen and flash complete. Like one super hot Quartz bulb. scan to the end of the head and slide up out of the way. . .
Roq has one...
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I have to see this, I bet Danny has one. That has has a Roq butt scratcher and beer holder.
Isn't that essentially what a work horse Flash Back is?