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screen printing => Screen Making => Topic started by: Stinkhorn Press on December 15, 2016, 01:15:54 PM
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how do you do it? I've seen labels with the mesh count with some sort of tape over that. what works, how long can you expect it to last?
we run statics only. we currently just write the mesh count/dia on each screen on both sides with a decent dye ink marker.
but 701 takes that stuff right off.
we hand apply 701, emulsion remover, degreaser. but we DO have a dip tank filled with water for a quick soak before sprayout when exposing.
picture is brand new screens, that's my shop christmas present (and a vastex semi-auto coater, need to hire a new screen guy...), they are never again that clean and nice.
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We use different colored strips of electrical tape for each mesh count. Stays on great and is easy to decipher from a distance.
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We use different colored strips of electrical tape for each mesh count. Stays on great and is easy to decipher from a distance.
on statics? or around newmans? electrical tape is pretty unsticky ain't it?
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We use vinyl stickers.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BFYu-Ynvr1d/?taken-by=kingscreen (https://www.instagram.com/p/BFYu-Ynvr1d/?taken-by=kingscreen)
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we ordered labels from discount labels. We got the extended life decals and ordered a 1"x8" label done like this:
60 110 155w 155y 230 305
then we just cut them apart and apply.
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We use different colored strips of electrical tape for each mesh count. Stays on great and is easy to decipher from a distance.
on statics? or around newmans? electrical tape is pretty unsticky ain't it?
We use colored duct tape - stays on newmans and statics for quite a while, not perfect and does have edge come up after a ton of use but works well enough.
We also have barcodes with the number below for updating where screens are in the process, what they are used for, when the last retension was, etc.
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We use different colored strips of electrical tape for each mesh count. Stays on great and is easy to decipher from a distance.
that's a really good idea.
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a sharpie seems to work well here. doesnt come off at all. clearly written with which mesh count. written right on the side where the mesh is glued to the fame.
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Old school Dymo labels in different colors.
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on statics? or around newmans? electrical tape is pretty unsticky ain't it?
We use it on Newmans but I don't see any reason why it couldn't be used on statics as well. And we have no issues with stickiness, even with a dip tank in use. I've seen the electrical tape hold up longer than the Polyken on multiple occasions.
Strip on the right is mesh count, square on the left has to do with the last time it was retensioned. We have 7 colors in use for mesh count.
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high tack vinyl cut in various shapes. A triangle is 230, circle is 305 etc. we can see this in the dark room, we can't decipher color as easily.
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This looks interesting..
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I made a template out of cardboard and I spray a color square on either end of the screen, color coded for the screen mesh. This doesn't wash off, even in a dip tank.
I off center the square so I can see it on the press, on the MHM you cannot see the center on the screen when it's on the press.
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Ive been using coloured zip ties on my newmans for a couple of years now, I'm pretty sure I saw it on here
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some time ago someone posted similar but you might try these. https://www.uline.com/BL_1701/Sharpie-Industrial-Markers?pricode=WA3664&gclid=CKjE9v6o99ACFU9MDQodNhgA_g&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://www.uline.com/BL_1701/Sharpie-Industrial-Markers?pricode=WA3664&gclid=CKjE9v6o99ACFU9MDQodNhgA_g&gclsrc=aw.ds)
Also we find that if you simply cover the marker print with simple clear packing tape it lasts pretty much forever.
We do not dip tank and use franmar products and the tape simply holds up
The other think we fine works really well is everyday sign vinyl , like Oracal vinyl http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/281024271486?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true (http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/281024271486?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true) Differen colors mean different mesh counts make a chart.
mooseman
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I print on Oracal 751 and laminate, they last years, in fact i've yet to have one fail. I have "230 - 4" which is 230 mesh, #4 preset on exposure unit.
I just do a .75" x 1.25" or so decal and it works great, i print a sheet every so often for new frames and you place it on both sides depending which one might possibly stick out when in a rack, standing up, etc.
I'm about to get some screens re-meshed and i think im going to serialize them so i can track their usage and tension levels as they get worked, etc.. I'll likely stick some white vinyl on some that i can write on with a sharpie and then place laminate over the top for screens that do not get reclaimed and need to be kept for repeat jobs.
751 is thin, and has a permanent adhesive, yet it will come off easily if needed, the laminate keeps the chemicals from cleaning off the solvent ink.
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This is what mine look like, we stretch our own screens so if we change the mesh count we just spray over the previous color.
We use mainly 4 mesh counts so we have 4 colors.
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...We use a Brother P-Touch labelmaker, and the .94" tape. They make a high-performance yellow tape that is .75", but we found the regular white labels to adhere just as well. These are thermal-printed, so there is no ink to wash off. There is one on each end of the screen, so it doesnt matter which end you are looking at.
...The smaller sticker is something we started doing on our s-mesh screens, it denotes when the screen was restretched, so we can get an idea of how long they are lasting over time. Those were printed with a basic little Dymo househole label maker. Same sort of thermal-printing type, and seems to be just as durable, and aheres jus as well.
Heres a link to the PTouch as staples, seems like its on a good sale right now.
http://www.staples.com/PT-P700-PC-Connectable-Label-Maker-for-PC-and-Mac/product_280862 (http://www.staples.com/PT-P700-PC-Connectable-Label-Maker-for-PC-and-Mac/product_280862)
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I favor just cutting black or Navy blue High Performance sign vinyl.
It takes a little work to cut, weed, and mask....but the numbers won't come off.
We currently aren't using our Newmans, just statics, and almost all S-Mesh. But I still cut for example 135-48 etc and put the decals in corners that are easy to see with my particular equipment. Do I really need the mesh diameter? I'm not sure, but I like knowing it.
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I favor just cutting black or Navy blue High Performance sign vinyl.
It takes a little work to cut, weed, and mask....but the numbers won't come off.
We currently aren't using our Newmans, just statics, and almost all S-Mesh. But I still cut for example 135-48 etc and put the decals in corners that are easy to see with my particular equipment. Do I really need the mesh diameter? I'm not sure, but I like knowing it.
Yep, this is what we do. Probably overkill but looks great and easy to read. Takes like five minutes to apply to the corners on new screens. We used red for the mesh count, gold for the S or LX, and white for the identity number. We gave each screen a number to track its life. Kinda curious how many runs we get to a screen.
We picked an easy-to-weed font for the numbers and I can weed the whole thing in one pull. We keep it all in a tackle box type thing.
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We use regular vinyl,and use same color code as Shurlock frames. They don't come off with the chemicals and we can scrape off with razor blade if we change mesh count.we mark all 4 sides so I can see it from anywhere in shop. A 2 in wide strip.
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I use a hammer and a small chisel. Very light taps. In addition to mesh count, I also scratch in the date of purchase and vendor contact information. It only take a day to prep about 6 screens like this. ;)
Seriously though, some good ideas here. (And talk about more than one way to skin a cat!)