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screen printing => Ink and Chemicals => Topic started by: XG Print on February 21, 2017, 12:22:01 PM

Title: Epic Rio Mixing System Question
Post by: XG Print on February 21, 2017, 12:22:01 PM
I may pull the trigger on the starter kit of the Rio system here pretty quick.  I was wondering if you guys that have been using it are still happy and do you recommend the Epic Amazing base with this or could I get away with using the Synergy NextGen Base?  We have never been a shop that mixes a lot of PMS color matches but we are starting to get the request more and more and I would rather have the ability to mix in house rather than pay my ink supplier to mix a quart or gallon of a certain color.  Thanks for the help as always!!!
Title: Re: Epic Rio Mixing System Question
Post by: Colin on February 21, 2017, 12:29:58 PM
Rio is a finished ink system.

No need for a base of any kind.

Unless you want to thin out your inks....
Title: Re: Epic Rio Mixing System Question
Post by: Admiral on February 21, 2017, 01:00:59 PM
Perhaps you meant Equalizer system?

We use the Amazing base for that, we are happy with those inks.
Title: Re: Epic Rio Mixing System Question
Post by: XG Print on February 21, 2017, 02:25:09 PM
OK..Should have read up a little more on the Rio.  Anyone using it?  Happy with opacity?  How is it wet on wet on runs of 500 plus?  Thanks
Title: Re: Epic Rio Mixing System Question
Post by: T Shirt Farmer on February 21, 2017, 02:32:16 PM
Switched to Rio 2 months ago, outstanding product prints much nicer than Rutland C3 IMO.
Title: Re: Epic Rio Mixing System Question
Post by: Colin on February 21, 2017, 02:51:18 PM
which base were you using with the C3 though?  Which formulas were you mixing?
Title: Re: Epic Rio Mixing System Question
Post by: T Shirt Farmer on February 21, 2017, 02:58:27 PM
which base were you using with the C3 though?  Which formulas were you mixing?

Rutland Super Opaque base, basic PMS colors, as we do not do any specialty ink printing the Rio system is a good fit for us, local distributor, easy to mix and so far very accurate recopies.
Title: Re: Epic Rio Mixing System Question
Post by: Jwcontractscreen on February 21, 2017, 04:33:06 PM
Rio is north of 80.00 per gallon. PC is 50.00 or less. How much ink do you mix? On a 5000 piece run that uses 1.5 gal of ink, the costs are significant for not much difference. I just don't see the value in Rio

Wilflex did ship me a test kit before it went to market. It makes good ink, just way too expensive for our daily needs.
Title: Re: Epic Rio Mixing System Question
Post by: T Shirt Farmer on February 21, 2017, 05:22:29 PM
Rio is north of 80.00 per gallon. PC is 50.00 or less. How much ink do you mix? On a 5000 piece run that uses 1.5 gal of ink, the costs are significant for not much difference. I just don't see the value in Rio

Wilflex did ship me a test kit before it went to market. It makes good ink, just way too expensive for our daily needs.

That's $0.006 per shirt which is absolutely insignificant in my market, plus I get a healthy discount off MSRP as most of my supplies come from this distributor. The time we have been using Rio the accuracy of formula, opaqueness of ink and ease of wet on wet application out weighs the price difference... but again that is for my shop
Title: Re: Epic Rio Mixing System Question
Post by: XG Print on February 22, 2017, 08:12:12 AM
Rio is north of 80.00 per gallon. PC is 50.00 or less. How much ink do you mix? On a 5000 piece run that uses 1.5 gal of ink, the costs are significant for not much difference. I just don't see the value in Rio

Wilflex did ship me a test kit before it went to market. It makes good ink, just way too expensive for our daily needs.

Hmmm...I need to check with my rep.. The on line prices looked to be very similar.  Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Epic Rio Mixing System Question
Post by: Rob Coleman on February 22, 2017, 08:33:57 AM
Populate your RIO color pricing into the IMS 3.0, then you can see exactly what your cost is for the Pantone matches. That is what is important.

Any of the systems can have huge variances depending upon the components used.


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