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Title: Epson T3270 Film and Dye sub
Post by: Maxie on February 23, 2017, 08:09:28 AM
I am thinking of getting a Epson T3270 printer.
It has 5 colors, I want to print film through one of the black heads and CYMK dye sublimation through the other 4.
Has anyone done this or know anything about it?
Title: Re: Epson T3270 Film and Dye sub
Post by: Sbrem on February 23, 2017, 10:00:39 AM
We print our films with this, using AccuRIP Black Pearl. If you use the Photo Black from Epson, it's pigment based, so your film needs to work with pigment based ink, not dye, as I tried at first with dubious results. We have also printed a few color posters for personal use, and they are very nice. There are suppliers of this whole package, but since we already had AccuRIP in an earlier version, we bought that upgrade directly from softwareforscreenprinters.com for $149.00. If you buy the package with the printer, it's $499.00. So, we bought the printer from a photo supply company we deal with a lot, and our total package was about $2200.00 give or take a few bucks...

Steve
Title: Re: Epson T3270 Film and Dye sub
Post by: Shanarchy on February 23, 2017, 01:25:51 PM
We print our films with this, using AccuRIP Black Pearl. If you use the Photo Black from Epson, it's pigment based, so your film needs to work with pigment based ink, not dye, as I tried at first with dubious results. We have also printed a few color posters for personal use, and they are very nice. There are suppliers of this whole package, but since we already had AccuRIP in an earlier version, we bought that upgrade directly from softwareforscreenprinters.com for $149.00. If you buy the package with the printer, it's $499.00. So, we bought the printer from a photo supply company we deal with a lot, and our total package was about $2200.00 give or take a few bucks...

Steve

Did you end up swapping out the black ink cartridge?
Title: Re: Epson T3270 Film and Dye sub
Post by: Frog on February 23, 2017, 01:56:26 PM
Just a note, that I have found that, at least with my printer, at my settings, pigment inks work fine for "film positives" on the frosty "waterproof" films that are the most commonly found nowadays. I suspect that really fussy printers looking for an even greater differential between d-min and d-max have still got a line on the clearer films that only work with dye based inks.
Title: Re: Epson T3270 Film and Dye sub
Post by: Sbrem on February 23, 2017, 05:07:32 PM
We print our films with this, using AccuRIP Black Pearl. If you use the Photo Black from Epson, it's pigment based, so your film needs to work with pigment based ink, not dye, as I tried at first with dubious results. We have also printed a few color posters for personal use, and they are very nice. There are suppliers of this whole package, but since we already had AccuRIP in an earlier version, we bought that upgrade directly from softwareforscreenprinters.com for $149.00. If you buy the package with the printer, it's $499.00. So, we bought the printer from a photo supply company we deal with a lot, and our total package was about $2200.00 give or take a few bucks...

Steve

Did you end up swapping out the black ink cartridge?

No, it would void the warranty on the printer, but I guess that's a personal choice...

Steve
Title: Re: Epson T3270 Film and Dye sub
Post by: Sbrem on February 23, 2017, 05:11:12 PM
Just a note, that I have found that, at least with my printer, at my settings, pigment inks work fine for "film positives" on the frosty "waterproof" films that are the most commonly found nowadays. I suspect that really fussy printers looking for an even greater differential between d-min and d-max have still got a line on the clearer films that only work with dye based inks.

When we first got it in, we had a 14" roll of dye based ink WP, and the pigment ink just wasn't dark enough. Switched a proper film and the positives are fine for exposure. Not the darkest films I've ever seen, but since they expose just fine, it's not an issue. It's not the blackness so much as it's ability to block the UV light; in the old days, we could use Rubylith or Amberlith, neither was black but made screen just as well as a 4.0 DMax piece of film.

Steve
Title: Re: Epson T3270 Film and Dye sub
Post by: cbjamel on February 23, 2017, 07:28:32 PM
What brand ink and i use 2 black carts for that reason. In film maker it goes through a setup what is darker i pick it and if set.
Shane

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Title: Re: Epson T3270 Film and Dye sub
Post by: Shanarchy on February 24, 2017, 08:11:05 AM
What film are you using for the pigment ink?
Title: Re: Epson T3270 Film and Dye sub
Post by: Frog on February 24, 2017, 09:24:44 AM
What film are you using for the pigment ink?


With my pigment ink from Cobra, I use the film from Fixxons (http://fixxons.com/index.html) as well as film from InkJetFilm.net
 (http://inkjetfilm.net/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1)

Title: Re: Epson T3270 Film and Dye sub
Post by: Shanarchy on February 24, 2017, 10:10:23 AM
What film are you using for the pigment ink?


With my pigment ink from Cobra, I use the film from Fixxons ([url]http://fixxons.com/index.html[/url]) as well as film from InkJetFilm.net
 ([url]http://inkjetfilm.net/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1[/url])


Memory refresher as I think it's starting to come back to me now.
Non WP film: Dye only
WP film: Pigment or DYE
Title: Re: Epson T3270 Film and Dye sub
Post by: Frog on February 24, 2017, 10:28:37 AM
What film are you using for the pigment ink?


With my pigment ink from Cobra, I use the film from Fixxons ([url]http://fixxons.com/index.html[/url]) as well as film from InkJetFilm.net
 ([url]http://inkjetfilm.net/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1[/url])


Memory refresher as I think it's starting to come back to me now.
Non WP film: Dye only
WP film: Pigment or DYE


Yes, in general.
However, the last few years have seen fewer and fewer non WP films than back in the days of the venerable Epson 3000's, though many still crave the low d-min from the clear Non WP over the higher from the "frosty" WP stuff.
Title: Re: Epson T3270 Film and Dye sub
Post by: Sbrem on February 24, 2017, 03:18:43 PM
What film are you using for the pigment ink?

I got it from Garston, a lot less than what Epson wants, $55 for a 17" x 100' roll, or there about...

Steve
Title: Re: Epson T3270 Film and Dye sub
Post by: Maxie on February 24, 2017, 04:29:36 PM
Who sells bulk cassettes for the T3270?
B&H have the printer for $2,300, in Europe it's more than double.
With my 4880 I use UV Blocking dye in a bulk cassette and get a good black dot.
Title: Re: Epson T3270 Film and Dye sub
Post by: Sbrem on February 24, 2017, 05:21:53 PM
Who sells bulk cassettes for the T3270?
B&H have the printer for $2,300, in Europe it's more than double.
With my 4880 I use UV Blocking dye in a bulk cassette and get a good black dot.

I've seen them advertised somewhere, but I don't want to mess with the warranty, at least not yet.

Steve
Title: Re: Epson T3270 Film and Dye sub
Post by: cbjamel on February 24, 2017, 06:00:18 PM
Bryan at filmdirectonline told me best to 2 blacks and 3 cleaning carts. email him at : bryan@filmdirectonline.com

He sold me a t3270 with 2 blacks and 3 cleaning a year ago and love it. Using 700 ml carts.

cadlink - FilmMaker rip.

Shane
Title: Re: Epson T3270 Film and Dye sub
Post by: Sbrem on February 25, 2017, 10:02:34 AM
Bryan at filmdirectonline told me best to 2 blacks and 3 cleaning carts. email him at : bryan@filmdirectonline.com

He sold me a t3270 with 2 blacks and 3 cleaning a year ago and love it. Using 700 ml carts.

cadlink - FilmMaker rip.

Shane

We plan to print some color with it to see if we can generate some extra income, but the black in one cart cleaning fluid in the rest is what we've done with all of our printers; single head printing makes nicer halftones we've found. Does doing that void your warranty from Epson?

Steve
Title: Re: Epson T3270 Film and Dye sub
Post by: cbjamel on February 25, 2017, 12:46:47 PM
I didnt care. I have had it a year now and maybe 3 - 5 clogs cleaned real quick and 1 waste  tank.

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Title: Re: Epson T3270 Film and Dye sub
Post by: Shanarchy on February 26, 2017, 07:20:25 PM

We plan to print some color with it to see if we can generate some extra income

That's what I'm kicking around here. Upgrading the 4800 to a T3270 to print small color posters use as our (soon to be backup) film printer.
Title: Re: Epson T3270 Film and Dye sub
Post by: Frog on February 26, 2017, 07:22:20 PM
I run transfers and film. The transfers actually do better with pigment inks
Title: Re: Epson T3270 Film and Dye sub
Post by: Maxie on March 02, 2017, 10:47:18 PM
Does the T3270 work like the smaller units, e.g. 4880.     Can you reset the bulk tanks and maintenance tank?     If yes will one chip resetter do both?
Title: Re: Epson T3270 Film and Dye sub
Post by: Jamisun on March 28, 2017, 04:19:30 PM
We have a T3270- we use the color occasionally to make posters on the enhanced adhesive synthetic paper- and we love the epson for that. But I gotta say- we have had more issues with film lining up than the 4900 or the 3000 we had before. We bought our printer when they first came out- and we are a little concerned we got a "lemon" as did another fellow forum poster did. Concerning using the color and black system- we still have a a 4900 also with the black max system- so for us - it's super cool to have one machine print large format color and print film, and also have the 4900 to print the film...

Title: Re: Epson T3270 Film and Dye sub
Post by: Jamisun on May 23, 2017, 02:09:21 PM
Bryan at filmdirectonline told me best to 2 blacks and 3 cleaning carts. email him at : bryan@filmdirectonline.com

He sold me a t3270 with 2 blacks and 3 cleaning a year ago and love it. Using 700 ml carts.

cadlink - FilmMaker rip.

Shane

Shane do you have any issues with your film lining up on the T-3270? Thank you.
Title: Re: Epson T3270 Film and Dye sub
Post by: cbjamel on May 23, 2017, 02:17:51 PM
if i print same direction very little. 1 out of 10 maybe. maybe. using filenamer xl.

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Title: Re: Epson T3270 Film and Dye sub
Post by: Jamisun on May 24, 2017, 02:54:26 PM
Thank you. Well aside from printing all films in the same direction- just to let you know- if you ever have a separation that has one color that is a very small little spot of color and you have to let the printer feed down to the cross hair- that is probably going to be the film that doesn't line up- or is off the most- ...try adding a line outside of the image area that runs from top to bottom on the side of all of your separations or even just the one with the big gap where the printer stops printing and would normally feed- and I bet they line up every time (At least as long as you are on one roll of film- can't promise if you switch out film in the middle of the job). As long as the printer prints all the way down the page- the films should line up. It's the separations that require the printer to feed down to the cross hair that are off.