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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: GraphicDisorder on May 05, 2017, 11:44:56 AM

Title: Pocket Pallets
Post by: GraphicDisorder on May 05, 2017, 11:44:56 AM
What are you guys using for pocket pallets? (size?)  We very rarely get requests for it but a couple larger customers recently asked so I probably need to get the pallets.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Pocket Pallets
Post by: zanegun08 on May 05, 2017, 12:22:14 PM
3" or 4" sleeve pallet depending on the pocket.

Flip the art upside down on screen and print it.
Title: Re: Pocket Pallets
Post by: 3Deep on May 05, 2017, 12:53:32 PM
We use those 4" on our manual, thought about getting them for our auto but since we don't to a ton of pockets I'll just stick with the ones we have for our manual...they're rubber coated.
Title: Re: Pocket Pallets
Post by: GraphicDisorder on May 05, 2017, 12:55:10 PM
So 3" or 4" pallets will work for all pockets?
Title: Re: Pocket Pallets
Post by: kingscreen on May 05, 2017, 01:14:47 PM
4",  but we have run into some American Apparel pockets that needed smaller.  Might be a non-issue now.
Title: Re: Pocket Pallets
Post by: inkman996 on May 05, 2017, 01:51:16 PM
We bought the 4 up pocket palettes from action, they come 3" wide but we modified the inner two on all the palettes because we are running custom made shirts that have tiny pockets. The 3" seems to work with everything else we ever used them for.
Title: Re: Pocket Pallets
Post by: GraphicDisorder on May 05, 2017, 02:27:41 PM
We bought the 4 up pocket palettes from action, they come 3" wide but we modified the inner two on all the palettes because we are running custom made shirts that have tiny pockets. The 3" seems to work with everything else we ever used them for.

Are you just letting shirts dangle or do you tie them up?
Title: Re: Pocket Pallets
Post by: inkman996 on May 05, 2017, 02:35:56 PM
They hang from the pocket which is close to midway of the shirt, as of yet I don't think we have had any issues with them touching the ground, and we run thousands of the damn things ugh. But for anything that does drag the ground we don't tie we just flip the excess over the  rear of the palette arm right behind the palette.
Title: Re: Pocket Pallets
Post by: GraphicDisorder on May 05, 2017, 02:44:38 PM
How about these? Would double be worth doing or just single?

http://www.actionengineering.com/DSN/wwwactionengineeringcom/Commerce/productimages/lg1_008079.jpg (http://www.actionengineering.com/DSN/wwwactionengineeringcom/Commerce/productimages/lg1_008079.jpg)
Title: Re: Pocket Pallets
Post by: LoneWolf2 on May 05, 2017, 03:04:36 PM
Get the ones from Action. Got a full set (single style) that I keep setup on our diamondback full time.
Title: Re: Pocket Pallets
Post by: ZooCity on May 05, 2017, 03:58:29 PM
Dangle.

4" can be too wide for some pockets to fit.  Last time this came up I mitered down the end of a 4" sleeve platen to about 3".  Worked great and I wondered why all sleeve platens aren't two sided like that.
Title: Re: Pocket Pallets
Post by: GraphicDisorder on May 05, 2017, 04:06:52 PM
Dangle.

4" can be too wide for some pockets to fit.  Last time this came up I mitered down the end of a 4" sleeve platen to about 3".  Worked great and I wondered why all sleeve platens aren't two sided like that.

So you think I should go 3 inch wide pallets?  Dual pallet option?
Title: Re: Pocket Pallets
Post by: ffokazak on May 05, 2017, 04:18:07 PM
I have never found a pocket that doesn't fit on our 4 in boards...

Gildan, alstyle, american apparel, all fit on our 4 " boards.

Title: Re: Pocket Pallets
Post by: ZooCity on May 05, 2017, 04:55:54 PM
I think you should have both options ideally but if Andrew's saying that the majority fit on 4" no need for the 3".

Never saw any efficiency improvement or advantage to multi up platens, everything we print is one piece to one platen.  Others seem to like 'em though.

Andrew, this was DT6000P that needed a 3" to load.
Title: Re: Pocket Pallets
Post by: ffokazak on May 05, 2017, 05:57:36 PM
Roger Zoo!

We don't have that style up here, I have never printed them!

Title: Re: Pocket Pallets
Post by: inkman996 on May 05, 2017, 06:53:03 PM
Zoo having 4 up has actually allowed us to increase our print speed dramatically. When we took on  a massive order that required on pocket printing we decided to try to get the fastest possible set up going, initially we didn't know if loading and printing 4 on one palette would make a difference but it actually does. My loader can load 4 index then load 4 more much faster than load one index then load another. I think anything between 3' and 4' is best fine for just about anything out there, but in our case we needed smaller because these are custom made shirts with the smallest pocket I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Pocket Pallets
Post by: dirkdiggler on May 05, 2017, 07:36:03 PM
Brandt, don't get the 3, you will be sorry!  4 is what you need!
Title: Re: Pocket Pallets
Post by: ZooCity on May 05, 2017, 10:06:07 PM
Zoo having 4 up has actually allowed us to increase our print speed dramatically. When we took on  a massive order that required on pocket printing we decided to try to get the fastest possible set up going, initially we didn't know if loading and printing 4 on one palette would make a difference but it actually does. My loader can load 4 index then load 4 more much faster than load one index then load another. I think anything between 3' and 4' is best fine for just about anything out there, but in our case we needed smaller because these are custom made shirts with the smallest pocket I have ever seen.
No kidding, I'll reevaluate that Thx!

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Title: Re: Pocket Pallets
Post by: Lizard on May 06, 2017, 08:25:09 AM
We use the action pallets without the rubber top. They are 3.5 wide. We print 10's of thousands of comfort colors a year.  They are tighter than a gildan pocket and will not fit easily on a 4 inch pallet.  So it will depend greatly if you expand out to more than a standard pocket.  We use one up and can index as fast or faster than a full shirt.  I don't know how you could keep the flashes at temp if you did multiples.
Title: Re: Pocket Pallets
Post by: Maxie on May 06, 2017, 11:40:24 AM
I got a quote for pallets from Action that are different widths on each end so you can turn them around.
I am not sure how other machines work but with the MHM if you make the pallet shorter than a shirt pallet and position the pins correctly you can turn the pallets around.
I think sleeve pallets should be shorter than than shirt pallets, with a T shirt you have an area from the neck to the print of at least 3", with sleeves you want to be able to print close to the edge.
I can post a sketch if anyone is interested.