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Industry regulations => CPSIA => Certificates of Compliance => Topic started by: Denis Kolar on November 20, 2011, 01:13:17 PM

Title: WM Plastic Certificate
Post by: Denis Kolar on November 20, 2011, 01:13:17 PM
Here it is, keep 'em coming.
Title: Re: WM Plastic Certificate
Post by: Printficient on November 21, 2011, 05:13:26 PM
Got it.  Please note that it does list a .01% existence of all the phthalates.  One of which is found in Tide laundry detergent.
Title: Re: WM Plastic Certificate
Post by: Denis Kolar on November 21, 2011, 11:39:59 PM
WM Plastic is not P free, but all of the Phthalates are below needed maximum level. The ink doe not have to be P free, it needs to be Phthalate  compliant.
That is my understanding. It said that the ink passed on all tests.
Where is Xenon certificate? I'm still waiting.
Title: Re: WM Plastic Certificate
Post by: Printficient on November 22, 2011, 07:04:22 AM
WM Plastic is not P free, but all of the Phthalates are below needed maximum level. The ink doe not have to be P free, it needs to be Phthalate  compliant.
That is my understanding. It said that the ink passed on all tests.
Where is Xenon certificate? I'm still waiting.
The chemist is working on the testing as we speak.
Title: Re: WM Plastic Certificate
Post by: JBLUE on November 22, 2011, 10:29:25 AM
WM Plastic is not P free, but all of the Phthalates are below needed maximum level. The ink doe not have to be P free, it needs to be Phthalate  compliant.
That is my understanding. It said that the ink passed on all tests.
Where is Xenon certificate? I'm still waiting.
The chemist is working on the testing as we speak.
Seriously? WTF? Why was this not said from the beginning.
Title: Re: WM Plastic Certificate
Post by: Frog on November 22, 2011, 10:50:58 AM
The way I read this is that the chemist knows damn well what they put into the ink, hence Sonny's insistence from the get-go that the ink is compliant. However, it apparently has never been submitted to a laboratory for verification needed for the certification. A little late, a little unprofessional, and seemingly indicative of a smallish operation in my mind. Small isn't necessarily bad, but business needs to be taken care of.
I am less willing to pounce since I remember that one of the last times I spoke with Union's Richard Labov before his passing was the confusion and difficulty that even manufacturers faced with this confusing and often overwhelming legislation. Much worse than us, but, hey, it's part of the game, and they have to comply to play.

On the other hand, since hardly anyone here admittedly bothers with the also-required tracking labels, I'm a little surprised at the degree of interest in this facet of the law, and have to assume it's limited to a small group.
Title: Re: WM Plastic Certificate
Post by: Denis Kolar on November 30, 2011, 07:44:07 AM
WM Plastic is not P free, but all of the Phthalates are below needed maximum level. The ink doe not have to be P free, it needs to be Phthalate  compliant.
That is my understanding. It said that the ink passed on all tests.
Where is Xenon certificate? I'm still waiting.
The chemist is working on the testing as we speak.

Sonny.
Should you be sending samples to the company that will issue you a certificate instead of your chemist working on it?

Does anybody else have ant other certificates? People that use Ruthland, Union, QCM, One Stroke.........................?
Or no one cares what they put on the shirts and do not have any certificates for the ink they use?
Title: Re: WM Plastic Certificate
Post by: RICK STEFANICK on November 30, 2011, 03:29:11 PM
honestly dennis, i'm just not that concerned about it..why is the certificate necessary? I'm sure I am missing something here.  :)
Title: Re: WM Plastic Certificate
Post by: RICK STEFANICK on November 30, 2011, 03:31:56 PM
I called tony chapman from rutland and he is going to respond here on their behalf. they do have compliance certificates. most people that print for major retailers are required to have them. also anyone printing for childrens wear mfg. companys..
Title: Re: WM Plastic Certificate
Post by: Frog on November 30, 2011, 03:48:13 PM
honestly dennis, i'm just not that concerned about it..why is the certificate necessary? I'm sure I am missing something here.  :)
If you print youth garments, you must be able to prove (in lieu of testing) that the inks you used are free of lead for 12 and under, and Pthalate compliant for kids under 4, but even this understanding varies greatly because of the exact wording in the law.
Bottom line, is if you do kids things, cover your ass!

You missed a lot of this during your hiatus.
Title: Re: WM Plastic Certificate
Post by: tchapman on November 30, 2011, 05:26:21 PM
Rutland Plastics updates Compliance statements once a year for each of our ink brands including Rutland, Union, and QCM brands of ink. The Compliance statement basically states that we do manufacture in compliance with the CPSIA regulations and all other RSL's given us by the major brands we sell to. It also identifies all the product series we manufacture that meet the restrictions. We send the Compliance statement to our customers upon request. We will also share the 3rd part analytical data for a given ink series to assist the customer who would need to meet the regulations issued by CPSIA for Childrens garments and the restricted chemicals of the major garment brands and retailers.
Title: Re: WM Plastic Certificate
Post by: RICK STEFANICK on November 30, 2011, 05:48:52 PM
Hiatus...I like that. 
Title: Re: WM Plastic Certificate
Post by: Denis Kolar on November 30, 2011, 05:57:24 PM
I have a few shirts that I want to prints in kids sizes and I would like to have a certificate
Title: Re: WM Plastic Certificate
Post by: Denis Kolar on December 10, 2011, 11:36:29 AM
WM Plastic is not P free, but all of the Phthalates are below needed maximum level. The ink doe not have to be P free, it needs to be Phthalate  compliant.
That is my understanding. It said that the ink passed on all tests.
Where is Xenon certificate? I'm still waiting.
The chemist is working on the testing as we speak.

Anything new there from the Chemist?
I really need this. I need to know if Xenon ink is P free or P compliant at least.
Title: Re: WM Plastic Certificate
Post by: Printficient on December 11, 2011, 09:04:41 AM
WM Plastic is not P free, but all of the Phthalates are below needed maximum level. The ink doe not have to be P free, it needs to be Phthalate  compliant.
That is my understanding. It said that the ink passed on all tests.
Where is Xenon certificate? I'm still waiting.
The chemist is working on the testing as we speak.

Anything new there from the Chemist?
I really need this. I need to know if Xenon ink is P free or P compliant at least.
I will get you something this week.
Title: Re: WM Plastic Certificate
Post by: mk162 on December 12, 2011, 08:37:00 AM
I would imagine these are not easy to get.  I have the MSDS, and you would think that would cover it.

Send me one too sonny.
Title: Re: WM Plastic Certificate
Post by: Denis Kolar on December 20, 2011, 01:02:24 PM
I would imagine these are not easy to get.  I have the MSDS, and you would think that would cover it.

Send me one too sonny.

Did you get it?
Title: Re: WM Plastic Certificate
Post by: mk162 on December 20, 2011, 01:30:43 PM
Nope, did you?  I saw Sonny last week and he said he was trying to get one from the owner. 
Title: Re: WM Plastic Certificate
Post by: Denis Kolar on December 20, 2011, 02:28:14 PM
Nope :(
Title: Re: WM Plastic Certificate
Post by: Printficient on December 20, 2011, 05:16:39 PM
Brent is hard at work on it.  I mention it every day.  I understand his position and will post it as soon as I get it.
Merry Christmas to All
Title: Re: WM Plastic Certificate
Post by: Frog on December 20, 2011, 05:43:04 PM
For the record, I need it too as I am hoping that this Xenon white becomes my everyday white that I can use on my pre-school orders as well.
Title: Re: WM Plastic Certificate
Post by: Denis Kolar on January 02, 2012, 02:42:29 PM
It is a new Year, let see if the status changed :)
Did Brent do his job?
Title: Re: WM Plastic Certificate
Post by: RICK STEFANICK on January 03, 2012, 01:11:49 PM
hey dennis, that wm plastics certificate didnt want to open after download. would you please email me a copy.. thanks rick
Title: Re: WM Plastic Certificate
Post by: Denis Kolar on January 03, 2012, 01:17:02 PM
hey dennis, that wm plastics certificate didnt want to open after download. would you please email me a copy.. thanks rick
Sure, coming right up :)