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General => General Discussion and ??? => Topic started by: killergraphics on April 29, 2011, 09:18:51 AM
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I have a fairly large 3 level house that sits 1000' off the main road.
Gravel driveway with grass growing in the middle of it.
My back yard is fenced in for my dogs to run in and yesterday, nice weather with the basement (print shop) door open, the dogs went nuts. When I looked out to see what was the matter.
There was a late teen or 20 something guy walking down my drive right next to my parked t-shirt mobile and headed down the hill. Right beside my friggin house.
Took 3 times for him to acknowledge me yelling at him.
As with the others we catch trespassing, I asked, what are you doing and do you know whose place you are on.
He said walking? I'm just walking?WFT!
Then I asked if he had permission to be on my place or if he even knew he was trespassing and why he was walking down my driveway.
Keep in mind I have the hillbilly front yard with a couple cars and such in it.
He said he thought it was a road and did not know it was a private driveway?because it went all the way to the road?...WWWWTTTTFFFF?
2 years ago we had a guy "cut" our fence so his boys could ride their new 4 wheelers on us and not mess up his yard.WTF?
I started to kick his a$$ when he said he did not think it would hurt anything.
But with the way things are I just had my friend the Sheriff explain it to him.
I laughed when the Sheriff told me...that guy is as dumb as a bag of rocks.
How can these new age idiots make it? They do not care about anything but themselves and really do not know any better.
They have no clue of right and wrong and could care less about your stuff as long as it does not affect their life.
I thought the last generation was bad, but this one is much worst.
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Wait for the kids that are 6-7 now.
You will see then that the generation you are talking about is not that bad :)
I look at the friend's kid when he raises his voice at his parents (8 years), I just can not wait for mine 4 year-old to do that. He will learn what the spanking means first time he does that.
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I get what you mean.
I don't have kids...but if I did and the way the law can arrest you for spanking your kids now...I think I would have to spank the cop too.
Just to make it worth while. ;D
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As long as socialist run government, what's yours is now theirs too.
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As long as socialist run government, what's yours is now theirs too.
I guess so.
But the saying that they will have to pry my gun from my cold dead hand will be in effect. ;D
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It's a shame that people don't stay off others posted property, and its even a bigger shame that people are so uptight about people being on their land. I hunt in North and South Dakota every year, and as long as it is not posted, you can walk all over anywhere with a gun...Even if it is posted it usually just takes a stop in at the local bar to get a phone number. If the farmer sees you, your likely just to get a wave as he passes by on his tractor, or a friendly conversation with him. That would never happen in TX as your more likely to get shot than you are to get a friendly wave. I wonder if when my kids are old enough to make the trip if every bit of land will be posted or pay-only.
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It's a matter of respect for property, and in today's litigious society, sometimes a matter of liability. I doubt Johnny sits on his porch with a shotgun challenging everyone who walks up his drive, but what happens when one of his goats bites a kid in the ass as they cut through his land, or the kid on the 4-wheeler breaks his neck when he runs into a tree Johnny carelessly left standing?
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It's a matter of respect for property, and in today's litigious society, sometimes a matter of liability. I doubt Johnny sits on his porch with a shotgun challenging everyone who walks up his drive, but what happens when one of his goats bites a kid in the ass as they cut through his land, or the kid on the 4-wheeler breaks his neck when he runs into a tree Johnny carelessly left standing?
I guess the folks in North Dakota, SOuth Dakota, Montana, and Canada aren't as sue happy as some other states. I have turned an ankle more than a few times hunting unposted property...never occured to me to so anyone over it. Just saying, its bad that folks can't respect private property, and it sadder there is so much private property now days.
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Where I lived for many years in CA, a woman was killed in a traffic collision. She was intoxicated to the point of being almost 3 times the legal limit. She ran a red light and got hit. Her husband brought a lawsuit against the owners of the properties on all four corners of the intersection (as if it was THEIR fault his wife was drunk and driving). Obviously there was legal cost for the judge and the clerks and all the filing of forms, etc. At least HE had to pay those costs because the case was thrown out by the judge, but what gets me is the AUDACITY of people that do things like that.
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and its even a bigger shame that people are so uptight about people being on their land.
I can't believe you said that.
How would you like someone stepping over you and your wife in the middle of your living room floor on a bear rug in front of a fireplace?
There is no difference.
Not to count the lawsuites if they get hurt.
Yes their not supposed to be there in the first place. So tell them that and in my case often.
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I understand there are communities that don't allow fences....there will be residential areas with houses and what "looks" like one huge back yard for all to see/share. Anyone live in such an area? How does the concept of "tresspassing" work there? (I'm just trying to get another viewpoint on it, so as to broaden my own).
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It depends on how good a shot you are. :o
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Private property is private property. If it ain't public, it's private, whether or not there's a sign. Not having a sign isn't license to tear up someone else's land. Doesn't mean we all have to put fences up everywhere, either, but a little respect goes a long way. It might have been nicer if the kids taking a shortcut stopped by, introduced themselves, and asked Johnny if he had any objections to them passing through on their way home from school. And the adult who cut a fence so his brat could ride his 4-wheeler should've had his ass handed to him.
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Are we talking land or are we talking a McRanch of 5-25 acres? 10 acres isn't land... An yes pitman, if it's not posted it's not trespassing. I don't recall saying that trespassing was okay. If you read the first sentence of my post I said it's too bad people don't respect private property anymore. As far as if it's the same as someone walking into your house....maybe if your in a neighborhood.... Not the same as big chunks of land.
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I don't see how it would matter 1 acre, a living room or my 110 acres.
If you ain't supposed to be there, and YOU do not own it, get off it.
Size makes no difference.
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All is not lost.
As a child of self-centered parents that grew up in the 70's, I am taking a stand. (so is my wife). My children were and are being raised with kindness and respect for other above all else. My daughter is 19 and in college and she works her ass off every day and is extremely intelligent and above all polite.
My son is 3 and the same values have been drilled into him from day one. He gets nothing without saying please and thank you.
There are millions of parents out there that don't care though, and it's really sad. They just go with what they know, and were probably raised by self centered people and are letting their kids be self-centered people.
Not me. Fight the good fight.
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If it's not posted, it's not trespassing? Really? I guess my question is do you own it? If not it's trespassing, unless you have the owner's permission to be on it.
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If it's not posted, it's not trespassing? Really? I guess my question is do you own it? If not it's trespassing, unless you have the owner's permission to be on it.
I'm sorry..but that is not correct. That is why they make tresspassing signs and purple paint. I have hunted extensively across the U.S. on other peoples land. Had very long talks with the farmers land that I hunt and conservation officers that control migratory birds..they only time I ever ask permission is if its posted. Freelancing waterfowl in the northern prairie is done by thousands of people every year, legally..without permission of the land owners. If they don't want their property hunted, they put a sign on it with their phone #. If you spent time up there as I have, and befriended the locals, you would know that for many of them charging people to hunt their land or even asking permission is looked down on.
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I don't see how it would matter 1 acre, a living room or my 110 acres.
If you ain't supposed to be there, and YOU do not own it, get off it.
Size makes no difference.
If you would take the time to read my posts, I never said it is okay to tresspass on posted private property. On the grounds I lease we take a lot of care to keep poachers off it. Perhaps reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. To me there is a big difference in walking on to someone's 1 acre lot that has a residence on it, and walking around on someones wide open space that isn't posted. My comments were more geared toward the fact that in the next 20 years only the rich will be allowed to enjoy many sporting activities that take place in wide-open country, and to me, that is too bad. Hopefully the folks in the north don't take up this boards (and the whole state of Texas's) attitude. It's a sad site to drive down to south Texas and see nothing but hundreds of miles of high-fence so they can keep THEIR DEER on THEIR LAND.
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This reminds me of a song!
There was a big high wall there that tried to stop me;
Sign was painted, it said private property;
But on the back side it didn't say nothing;
This land was made for you and me.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxiMrvDbq3s[/youtube]
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I think the original intent of the thread was to say that young people these days are ignorant and disrespectful, even more than in times past. I would have to agree.
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Here is an artist recreation of the event
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a75KbKjNZyo[/youtube]
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Clark don't be such a prude. I was defending the uptight landowner as you decided I was.
Your little hunting thing sounds like years of its OK.
In the south and I'm sure many other places, not making money of invading hunters on the scale you speak of.
We just do not want you on our place.
SO If You Don't Own It Keep Off.
Is that simple enough for ya to understand..
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Clark don't be such a prude. I was defending the uptight landowner as you decided I was.
Your little hunting thing sounds like years of its OK.
In the south and I'm sure many other places, not making money of invading hunters on the scale you speak of.
We just do not want you on our place.
SO If You Don't Own It Keep Off.
Is that simple enough for ya to understand..
I wouldn't hunt in Tennessee anyway, Arkansas is closer and better. So you don't have to worry about me "invading" your space. As for the rest of your post. I can't retort what I don't understand..maybe it's too "simple" for me. Y'all have a great weekend!
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OK I went back and read them. Yours are no better than mine.
But since you think it is ok to bag a burger off my grill in my big back yard...
run fast and keep your head down. ;D
Looks to me like your reading and writing skills could use a brush up.
Me I try to go by the Golden Rule.
You would have to look that up.
As you seem to only think about yourself.
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Sometimes I think (hope) things get lost in "translation". If only we could make eye contact while posting.
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Sometimes I think (hope) things get lost in "translation". If only we could make eye contact while posting.
I was recently chastised for not including LOL disclaimers or emoticons in some communications in a business matter. It reminded me that I often take for granted that the other party either knows us by know, understands us, or can automatically understand the intent rather than just the content.
It's a brave new world out there now with this type of communication slowly phasing out voice, with it's intonations and expression.
Though many say that the new method and style is pushing real writing skills to the back, I hope that, texting notwithstanding, it will actually force some to expand vocabulary and develop clearer writing skills.
I can dream can't I? lol! ;D
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Sometimes I think (hope) things get lost in "translation". If only we could make eye contact while posting.
I don't think there was much misinterpretation. Some guys like to make signs, other guys like to ignore them.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1Q7cP3ij5g[/youtube]
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Sometimes I think (hope) things get lost in "translation". If only we could make eye contact while posting.
I was recently chastised for not including LOL disclaimers or emoticons in some communications in a business matter. It reminded me that I often take for granted that the other party either knows us by know, understands us, or can automatically understand the intent rather than just the content.
It's a brave new world out there now with this type of communication slowly phasing out voice, with it's intonations and expression.
Though many say that the new method and style is pushing real writing skills to the back, I hope that, texting notwithstanding, it will actually force some to expand vocabulary and develop clearer writing skills.
I can dream can't I? lol! ;D
Oddly, I see more and more typos in places where you'd least expect them. Newspapers, online articles written by people with a decent vocabulary, but poor spelling skills, not just in the passionate rants of some of us using forums, or the comment sections of other online information and editorial entities. Whether they, or their editors, rely on "spellcheck" rather than read the piece for context, who nose?
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This is not to support or take away from anyones position on tress passing but to shed some light on locations and differences.
In my neck of the woods where I grew up, West Virginia, Pennsylvania and Ohio, it's just as CNClarck says in terms of hunting. It's a common understanding that unless it's posted ( out in the woods) you can walk around hunting all you want. Stay away from houses. They don't like you shooing in he back yard. If it's posted, and you stumble upon someone elses posted property ( and they don't know you're in it, you could get a bullet zing over your head. Happened to me on a few occasions. Just warning shots from a feeble minded old man that likes to squabble with his sister and the sister gave us permission. Anyways, everyone knows the "code of the land" in those states. Most times they just want to be aware you are on it. Hunt for free in those states. Nobody pays the owners.
Down here in Florida, different ball game. They charge big money to hunt on property. Like thousands of dollars. Crazy. That's the contrast between what people think of being on someones land. It's very different depending on where you are from. Oh, and up north, you may also come across the sound of dueling banjos in the woods so, you know what that means. Keep your powder dry. ;)