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Title: 96 gauntlet 8/10... disassembly in the morning!
Post by: rockerdude on December 03, 2017, 06:47:50 PM
Ok so I'm going in the morning to disassemble the press!
Any words of wisdom from those who have done this before, before I get up there?
I'm going to make sure that "EVERYTHING" is labeled and marked before disconnecting it. 
Are there any special tools I need to take?
I'm just afraid I'm gonna get there and not have everything I need!! Lol.
Are the printheads cool to just set on the ground, or should I build some kind of support for them on the pallets?
I've watched the m&r vids on setting up a sportsman over and over and over.
Is the gauntlet pretty similar as far as overall procedure of setting up? I'm planning on just going backwards of the vid for the tear down?
Any words of advice word be great!!
Also looks like we are using a pallet jack and a lift gate to load everything. Fork truck plan fell through on the load end... I have a fork truck available for the unload at my shop.
Title: Re: 96 gauntlet 8/10... disassembly in the morning!
Post by: spotcolorsupply on December 03, 2017, 08:50:08 PM
No special tools are needed, and it sounds like you have everything covered.

One tip I can offer....

Use 2x4 boards in the screen holders, clamped with the manual clamps, to secure the heads to the pallets.
Screw them down with fairly large screws (2.5-3").
The screw length is not necessary, but part of the shank is un-threaded so the boards will be pulled down to the pallets without a pilot hole.

And if it was me I'd screw the pallets down to the truck bed. Assuming it has a wooden bed.

Also. Home Depot sells books of numbered stickers in the electrical department. Those presses have a crap ton of connections if I remember right. That book may help.
Title: Re: 96 gauntlet 8/10... disassembly in the morning!
Post by: merchmonster on December 03, 2017, 10:45:51 PM
Are the printheads cool to just set on the ground, or should I build some kind of support for them on the pallets?
- Generally yes, I suggest padded blankets under. I drove a press from LV to SF and it was fine. Drive the truck like you're driving around glass.

Also looks like we are using a pallet jack and a lift gate to load everything. Fork truck plan fell through on the load end... I have a fork truck available for the unload at my shop.
- I'd be careful with the base on a lift gate. Base is heavy (way over 1000 lbs) and probably about as wide as the lift gate. I've only ever loaded them in with a pallet jack on a dock, otherwise we used a forklift if it was from ground to truck.

Is the gauntlet pretty similar as far as overall procedure of setting up? I'm planning on just going backwards of the vid for the tear down?
- I've never set one up by myself, always paid the tech to do it. But there is some leveling and adjustments that typically need to be made.
Title: Re: 96 gauntlet 8/10... disassembly in the morning!
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on December 04, 2017, 01:26:58 AM
Very sketchy if the lift gate is not some sort of an extended length version. I just assisted a buyer do it and I told him I need the money in my hand before hand. Pretty scary because if it's a standard length liftgate about 40% of the base is hanging off the edge.
Title: Re: 96 gauntlet 8/10... disassembly in the morning!
Post by: rockerdude on December 04, 2017, 05:12:54 AM
Thanks for all of the info!!
As far as setting it up.. I am 98% sure I'm having someone else do that!
I'm just doing the teardaown and get it back to my shop!! Lol

The size of the lift gate is 5' wide x 4' deep. Base of press is 3.5 x 4. It's going to be close.
There are a couple steel companies a couple buildings down with about 15-20 fork lifts sitting outside and driving around all day. I think I'm going to walk down and see if the owner/shop manager wants to make a little cash?

I'll keep you posted! And probably have more stupid questions as I go!! Lol
Title: Re: 96 gauntlet 8/10... disassembly in the morning!
Post by: RICK STEFANICK on December 04, 2017, 08:33:57 AM
Why not leave it assembled and have a flatbed wrecker winch it up and bring it to your shop. If not I would avoid taking off the ring and pallet arms if you can help it.
Title: Re: 96 gauntlet 8/10... disassembly in the morning!
Post by: Atownsend on December 04, 2017, 09:04:06 AM
Why not leave it assembled and have a flatbed wrecker winch it up and bring it to your shop. If not I would avoid taking off the ring and pallet arms if you can help it.

^^^ this^^^

I brought ours in on a flatbed, suspended it with straps from the fork lift forks and swung it on through the bay door so it would clear. a little sketchy, but all I had to do was level the base, pallets & connect air.
Title: Re: 96 gauntlet 8/10... disassembly in the morning!
Post by: Sbrem on December 04, 2017, 09:55:12 AM
Nice if you can do that, but if you take it apart, it needs to be put back together by a tech who knows how, or it won't be right, unless of course, you do know that...

Steve
Title: Re: 96 gauntlet 8/10... disassembly in the morning!
Post by: RICK STEFANICK on December 04, 2017, 11:00:29 AM
 option 2 ==-If you don't take the ring and pallet arms off you can bolt the heads back on, level it. no registration required.
Title: Re: 96 gauntlet 8/10... disassembly in the morning!
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on December 04, 2017, 12:10:14 PM
The liftgate might match the base in size but what you are not thinking about is how are you going to get it on there. The pallet jack essentially makes the base bigger than the liftgate if that makes any sense. I should of took pictures but believe me it is a scary proposition. I would personally either get a forklift or a flatbed tow truck.
Title: Re: 96 gauntlet 8/10... disassembly in the morning!
Post by: ZooCity on December 04, 2017, 01:06:28 PM
Why not leave it assembled and have a flatbed wrecker winch it up and bring it to your shop. If not I would avoid taking off the ring and pallet arms if you can help it.

This is the way to go if at all possible.  Cheaper and far less work than the other options.  The flatbed operators are used to moving cars and not messing them up so they'll treat the machine well typically.
Title: Re: 96 gauntlet 8/10... disassembly in the morning!
Post by: Croft on December 04, 2017, 03:00:04 PM
Why not leave it assembled and have a flatbed wrecker winch it up and bring it to your shop. If not I would avoid taking off the ring and pallet arms if you can help it.

I had planned to take mine apart when I moved , only had a 10' door at my old shop 14 at the new one, My son works for a millwrighting company they came over with a zoom boom basically reached in and pulled it out of my shop gently made it through the door and placed on there flat deck , used a big forklift at the new shop, then I called the tech in to level and set up. At the worst we were going to take a few arms off to get through the small door but these guys knew what they were doing.
Title: Re: 96 gauntlet 8/10... disassembly in the morning!
Post by: rockerdude on December 04, 2017, 07:32:45 PM
Thanks for all the replies!! Only option I really have is a 26' Penske box truck at this point.
Just got home!! I went ahead and took it all the way down. Wasn't too terribly awful!
Although I think the last tech to do an install on it used a breaker bar and torced all the arm bolts and nuts to 600 foot pounds!!! Lol. 
Moving everything tomorrow. Still trying to find a fork truck on that end.
Most of my time was up top making sure that every wire and hose was labeled correctly.
Also moving a 16' dryer and a HUGE ASS compressor. Gonna be a long day I would assume.
Title: Re: 96 gauntlet 8/10... disassembly in the morning!
Post by: spotcolorsupply on December 05, 2017, 01:24:09 PM
Penske is the only way to go when using a box truck. Biggest lift gates, and they transition nicely from the ground. Can hold 3000 lbs if I'm not mistaken.

Also be careful moving the compressor. IMHO the most dangerous pieces to move, especially the vertical ones. Extremely top heavy and cumbersome. I know a guy, who knows a guy, that lost a finger trying to catch a 10 HP that was tipping over.