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screen printing => General Screen Printing => Topic started by: islandtees on January 25, 2018, 09:13:43 PM

Title: Printing 100% Nylon Shell Jacket
Post by: islandtees on January 25, 2018, 09:13:43 PM
Need some advice. Have used nylobond in the past. These jackets are blue breathable 5000gm waterproof rating Dri Duck Torrent #5335
I wonder what is the best way for 1 color white ink. Do any of you use any kind of catalyst other than nylobond or a specific ink for this type of nylon. Don't know of any inks in white specific for this type of printing. Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Printing 100% Nylon Shell Jacket
Post by: RICK STEFANICK on January 25, 2018, 09:39:54 PM
Certainly nylobond or Catalyst works great. It has been a long time since I have done those. I think there are some decent air dry inks on the market also. 
Title: Re: Printing 100% Nylon Shell Jacket
Post by: johnny on January 26, 2018, 11:12:45 AM
look into one stroke smart white, i haven't tried it on 100% nylon yet but their data sheet says it'll work. i switched over to it as my main white a few months ago and it's been nice not needing to use a different white for any fabric material that's come in so far.
Title: Re: Printing 100% Nylon Shell Jacket
Post by: Rob Coleman on January 26, 2018, 11:38:33 AM
For 100% nylon, the gold standard has always been the International Coatings 900 series with the catalyst.


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Title: Re: Printing 100% Nylon Shell Jacket
Post by: Nation03 on January 26, 2018, 01:39:50 PM
Just did a bunch of jackets last week - 2 color prints. I used a 125 mesh screen for the white. I've had the best luck with One Stroke low bleed whites with 10-13% nylobond by weight.
Title: Re: Printing 100% Nylon Shell Jacket
Post by: islandtees on January 26, 2018, 08:05:07 PM
The other thing is this jacket is not just nylon shell, but 5000gm waterproof rating, that's what I'm worried about.
Title: Re: Printing 100% Nylon Shell Jacket
Post by: Steve12Lowry on January 29, 2018, 07:36:04 AM
The other thing is this jacket is not just nylon shell, but 5000gm waterproof rating, that's what I'm worried about.

How large is the print area? We always took basic rubbing alcohol and went over the print area to remove the waterproof coating.
Title: Re: Printing 100% Nylon Shell Jacket
Post by: Frog on January 29, 2018, 08:55:31 AM
The other thing is this jacket is not just nylon shell, but 5000gm waterproof rating, that's what I'm worried about.

How large is the print area? We always took basic rubbing alcohol and went over the print area to remove the waterproof coating.

and then explained to the customer how the area around the printing on their raincoat would no longer be waterproof?
Title: Re: Printing 100% Nylon Shell Jacket
Post by: Steve12Lowry on January 29, 2018, 09:31:54 AM
The other thing is this jacket is not just nylon shell, but 5000gm waterproof rating, that's what I'm worried about.

How large is the print area? We always took basic rubbing alcohol and went over the print area to remove the waterproof coating.

and then explained to the customer how the area around the printing on their raincoat would no longer be waterproof?

We did explain the process which I why I asked how large of a print area. We did not print anything on waterproof garments larger then a left chest. Everything else would be embroidery for us unless they had no issue with losing the waterproof coating.
Title: Re: Printing 100% Nylon Shell Jacket
Post by: islandtees on January 29, 2018, 08:11:37 PM
Must have the waterproofing as these jackets are used on boats in sea spray.
Title: Re: Printing 100% Nylon Shell Jacket
Post by: Nation03 on January 30, 2018, 09:40:40 AM
I've heard about the rubbing alcohol trick, but never used it. If you add the correct amount of nylobond there shouldn't be an issue. Picture below is on Holloway jacket. Not sure what the waterproof rating is, but that is one hit of white, a very quick flash then the grey overprint. Wasn't comfortable putting them through the dryer so I flash cured them until they were smoking pretty good. Let them sit a while and did the ole finger nail test to make sure nothing was flaking off.
Title: Re: Printing 100% Nylon Shell Jacket
Post by: ZooCity on January 30, 2018, 11:54:18 AM
I like nylobond dropped into a thicker bodied ink for this.  The ink will thin from the catalyst.  Excellent bond after 24hrs.

For anything multi color including pfp of a white, etc. I don't like screen printing lined jackets.  We have good hold downs but printing the job in registration is a moving target and can be crazy making for the quality minded printer.  I like transfers for the 2 ply jackets.

Not to hijack this but as an alternative what cad material do you all like for transfers on waterproofed product?
Title: Re: Printing 100% Nylon Shell Jacket
Post by: islandtees on January 30, 2018, 07:52:46 PM
We were thinking vinyl but didn't know how well it would adhere to a waterproof nylon jacket.