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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: Cole on May 18, 2018, 12:58:12 PM

Title: Epson P800 nightmare
Post by: Cole on May 18, 2018, 12:58:12 PM
Hey all,

I just received my P800 Standard Edition in the mail only to realize that it doesn't work with Accurip Black Pearl. It's only compatible with Black Pearl SE, which CANNOT be sold separately or upgraded to. It MUST be bundled with the printer. I decided to get the P800 Standard Edition rather than the Screen Print Edition because I already own Accurip. Little did I know that it would only be compatible with Accurip SE. So now I have to return this printer and decide to either bite the bullet and buy the Screen Print Edition ($600 more than Standard) or choose another printer that will work with my version of Accurip. What a headache.

Is there an older Epson printer for $1000 or less that I should look at? There are so many out there and I don't know which ones have the capability to print all black for film output. If anyone has a suggestion, I'd appreciate it! My 1430 is on it's way to the grave and I need to act on something quick. Really bummed that this P800 doesn't work with my version of Accurip  :(
Title: Re: Epson P800 nightmare
Post by: ZooCity on May 18, 2018, 01:53:40 PM
I would skip that P800 entirely.  T3270 or another 1430, although I hear the the 1430 is getting an update.  T3270 has it's own problems but running on accurip is not one of them.
Title: Re: Epson P800 nightmare
Post by: rusty on May 18, 2018, 01:58:32 PM
The 1430 is no longer available, as far as I can tell. 
Title: Re: Epson P800 nightmare
Post by: ZooCity on May 18, 2018, 03:50:18 PM
The 1430 is no longer available, as far as I can tell.

woof, yeah they must be disco'd, $900 on amazon right now.  That was my backup printer go to.

XP-1500 is the replacement?
Title: Re: Epson P800 nightmare
Post by: Frog on May 18, 2018, 04:06:09 PM
The 1430 is no longer available, as far as I can tell.

woof, yeah they must be disco'd, $900 on amazon right now.  That was my backup printer go to.

XP-1500 is the replacement?
yeah those jacked-up prices on discontinued items are just plain silly. I suppose that folks figure there'e nothing lost in offering them like this for the folks who absolutely loved the old one they had and will pay through the nose!
Saw that happen with my WF1100. Down to less than $100 as they were being phased out, and then north of $650 by 3rd parties when its replacement wasn't everybody's cup of tea.
Title: Re: Epson P800 nightmare
Post by: farmboygraphics on May 18, 2018, 05:07:36 PM
Hoping to get a few more years out of my 3000's. By the time they give it up maybe all the bugs will be worked out of the T3270.
Title: Re: Epson P800 nightmare
Post by: im_mcguire on May 18, 2018, 05:18:21 PM
Hoping to get a few more years out of my 3000's. By the time they give it up maybe all the bugs will be worked out of the T3270.
the problems on the t3270 must be intermittent.  Ive had mine for 3 months, and Ive had no issues.
Title: Re: Epson P800 nightmare
Post by: cbjamel on May 18, 2018, 05:42:49 PM
Zoo did you get a demo of the cadlink rip? to see if that helped the problems?

Shane
Title: Re: Epson P800 nightmare
Post by: ZooCity on May 18, 2018, 08:10:26 PM
Zoo did you get a demo of the cadlink rip? to see if that helped the problems?

Shane

Working on it! 
Title: Re: Epson P800 nightmare
Post by: blue moon on May 18, 2018, 09:09:16 PM
Zoo did you get a demo of the cadlink rip? to see if that helped the problems?

Shane

Working on it!

make sure you get the version 10, it was just released! Lot less clunky than the V3 we were using.

pierre
Title: Re: Epson P800 nightmare
Post by: Maxie on May 19, 2018, 06:45:55 AM
I’m very happy with my T3270.     I have it set up for Sublimation and Black.
Title: Re: Epson P800 nightmare
Post by: rusty on May 19, 2018, 12:31:21 PM
I’m very happy with my T3270.     I have it set up for Sublimation and Black.

you can have two different types of printing ink in there? How does that work?  With the 1430 unavailable I am starting to look for a new printer and this sounds kinda sweet.



Title: Re: Epson P800 nightmare
Post by: Maxie on May 19, 2018, 04:57:27 PM
The T3270 has  five cassettes, CYM and two Blacks.(Matt and Glossy)
I have CYMK set up with Sublimation and use Accurip Black Pearl (older versions are not compatible with this printer) to print black on film from the second black head.
I use bulk cassettes.
I’ve had it said up for a year and am happy with the results on both these media.     I haven’t really tested but have not noticed any registration problems.
Title: Re: Epson P800 nightmare
Post by: Sbrem on May 20, 2018, 11:09:04 AM
I bought our T3270 without Black Pearl, and having been an AccuRIP owner for years, they gave me an upgrade, for short money as opposed to full price. I almost went with the P800 until I reads the specs and saw how SLOW it was. The T3270 outputs much faster.

Steve
Title: Re: Epson P800 nightmare
Post by: Cole on May 21, 2018, 10:01:41 AM
Seems like most of you are happy with the T3270. Wish my budget allowed for that. I'm returning the P800 since there's no way for me to upgrade to Black Pearl SE. I picked up a used Epson 9600 over the weekend for $350, so I'll see how that works out for now. Had to act on something quick since my 1430 keeps spewing ink all over the film and makes the edges of my art look like it was cut with a dull blade. If anyone has any experience with the 9600, let me know if you have any tips or suggestions!
Title: Re: Epson P800 nightmare
Post by: mimosatexas on May 21, 2018, 10:24:28 AM
You'll have a hell of a time getting the 9600 to print with anything past windows 7, just FYI.  I went down that road a while back...wasn't fun.  Ended up getting a 9800 for $500.
Title: Re: Epson P800 nightmare
Post by: Cole on May 21, 2018, 11:56:12 AM
You'll have a hell of a time getting the 9600 to print with anything past windows 7, just FYI.  I went down that road a while back...wasn't fun.  Ended up getting a 9800 for $500.

I'm running Mac OS 10.13

Hopefully it will work with that. Epson has the drivers available for this version of OS and Accurip shows in its configuration menu that it's compatible with the 9600. I haven't hooked it up yet because I'm in the middle of moving shops, but I have my fingers crossed that it will work. I'd rather deal with issues on press all day than deal with printer problems for an hour. Today is the day I start saving for CTS lol
Title: Re: Epson P800 nightmare
Post by: 3Deep on May 21, 2018, 03:03:29 PM
I'm thinking some screenprint supply companies might have went in and both butt loads of the 1430 so they could bundle it with there rips etc.  Lucky that my 3000 is still printing good film with the 1430 sitting right beside it printing film as well, still using an old XP system with them as the newer system's are a pain to deal with.