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Title: Pressure washer??
Post by: jason-23 on December 31, 2011, 07:45:32 PM
I know someone on here has a good source for a industrial electric pressure washer....Andy comes to mind. I'm tired of the plastic bs ones from lowes and home depot that fail in two months. I don't want to run a gas one due to me being in a garage setup. I'm sure my hoa and neighbors would love me if I fired up a gas washer at 10 pm so electric is the option. The only ones I can find are damn near 1000k.
Title: Re: Pressure washer??
Post by: Frog on December 31, 2011, 07:57:10 PM
Seems to me that this has popped up here already,
I know that the North Stars have been been mentioned as good, industrial level washers.
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/category_pressure-washers+electric-cold-water (http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/category_pressure-washers+electric-cold-water)
Title: Re: Pressure washer??
Post by: tpitman on December 31, 2011, 09:11:46 PM
And in case Jason isn't aware of it, there's a Northern Tool Store on Sand Lake Road just east of the Florida Mall.
Title: Re: Pressure washer??
Post by: brandon on December 31, 2011, 11:10:19 PM
We decided along time ago to just spend the cash on one and forget those little pieces of crap. Diptanks help a lot though as well. Made a huge difference for us. Altered our reclaim guys life I believe! But on a serious note does anyone on here have the garden hose down? We do a lot of discharge and I just can't get fathom getting the "stain" out without a pressure washer. I do know there are tons of shops in India for example that are on the streets as in on the street and those guys crank out some good numbers and product. Some better than others just like here in the states. And they don't use a pw. But I believe I might be starting a new thread. Sorry!
Title: Re: Pressure washer??
Post by: blue moon on January 01, 2012, 09:54:59 AM
I know someone on here has a good source for a industrial electric pressure washer....Andy comes to mind. I'm tired of the plastic bs ones from lowes and home depot that fail in two months. I don't want to run a gas one due to me being in a garage setup. I'm sure my hoa and neighbors would love me if I fired up a gas washer at 10 pm so electric is the option. The only ones I can find are damn near 1000k.

We recently purchased a CamSpray 1500A for $675 from pressurewashersdirect.com. It is quiet so your neighbors will not care if you have it running, they might not even hear it! The northern tool ones are cheaper by about $200 or so, but are made in China rather than US.

pierre
Title: Re: Pressure washer??
Post by: Shawn (EIP) on January 01, 2012, 12:54:35 PM
If I'm correct if  you pay for the a warranty Home Depot wont even inspect the power washer, they'll give you a gift card to go pick out another and your on your way. Buddy's shop has the same one I do and he's on this 3rd or 4th one. Mine however is working good but I'm getting ready to swap it out anyway before the warranty ends. We have their highest end electric model that looks like a gas PW.
Title: Re: Pressure washer??
Post by: jsheridan on January 01, 2012, 01:40:21 PM
Can't get much better than this style of motor and head.

http://www.pressurewashersdirect.com/Pressure-Pro-WM-EE2015G-Pressure-Washer/p1550.html (http://www.pressurewashersdirect.com/Pressure-Pro-WM-EE2015G-Pressure-Washer/p1550.html)

Use the specs and contact a local shop as you will need to service it yearly. A good pro model will last you 15-20 years with good service.

Title: Re: Pressure washer??
Post by: Frog on January 01, 2012, 02:17:56 PM
Great washer, but dangerously close to Jason's $1000 deal breaking criteria.
Title: Re: Pressure washer??
Post by: ScreenFoo on January 01, 2012, 05:04:54 PM
+1 Pierre--Cam spray 1500A here too--from the same place even.   :)  Brass manifold, *nearly* all rebuild parts available.  (you screw up the unloading valve, you're out of luck on this one)

The manifold looks very similar to the unit John linked to.

Great unit.  Spraying high mesh screens is many times louder than the motor or the pump is.
Title: Re: Pressure washer??
Post by: tancehughes on January 01, 2012, 05:17:53 PM
Jason there's a great company in Baton Rouge LA called Hydro Quip and they build the pressure washers right there at their facility. You may want to check them out. If you do, ask for Ben.
Title: Re: Pressure washer??
Post by: mk162 on January 01, 2012, 08:18:32 PM
+1 on the camspray.  It's a great machine.  Been running 1 for about 3 years now.
Title: Re: Pressure washer??
Post by: blue moon on January 02, 2012, 09:37:37 AM
If I'm correct if  you pay for the a warranty Home Depot wont even inspect the power washer, they'll give you a gift card to go pick out another and your on your way. Buddy's shop has the same one I do and he's on this 3rd or 4th one. Mine however is working good but I'm getting ready to swap it out anyway before the warranty ends. We have their highest end electric model that looks like a gas PW.

technically, those warranties are not valid for commercial use. . .

pierre
Title: Re: Pressure washer??
Post by: mk162 on January 02, 2012, 09:50:53 AM
Not to mention, I really don't have time to screw around with that crap.  Not only are you effing around with wasting time replacing them, you have to mess around with Home Depot returns and driving them back and forth.

And frankly, those cheapies do no clean well.  They are over-rated in my opinion.  The better ones clean screens better and faster.
Title: Re: Pressure washer??
Post by: ZooCity on January 02, 2012, 10:52:20 AM
Camspray 1500a.
Title: Re: Pressure washer??
Post by: islandtees on January 02, 2012, 11:05:39 AM
I know someone on here has a good source for a industrial electric pressure washer....Andy comes to mind. I'm tired of the plastic bs ones from lowes and home depot that fail in two months. I don't want to run a gas one due to me being in a garage setup. I'm sure my hoa and neighbors would love me if I fired up a gas washer at 10 pm so electric is the option. The only ones I can find are damn near 1000k.

We recently purchased a CamSpray 1500A for $675 from pressurewashersdirect.com. It is quiet so your neighbors will not care if you have it running, they might not even hear it! The northern tool ones are cheaper by about $200 or so, but are made in China rather than US.

pierre
The site you show for the camspray says its not made in the USA either.
The Northern unit uses a Leeson motor and Cat direct drive. Both well made and rebuildable.
Any unit made like these 2 should give you long service.
Title: Re: Pressure washer??
Post by: Socalfmf on January 02, 2012, 11:10:55 AM
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/search.shtml?searchQuery=1tdk4&op=search&Ntt=1tdk4&N=0&sst=subset (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/search.shtml?searchQuery=1tdk4&op=search&Ntt=1tdk4&N=0&sst=subset)

here is the one we got...it has parts that you can replace if they fail...and you can rebuild it if ever needed....we were going through a power washer from Walmart about every 3 weeks...and even being able to return it we were losing man hours doing so....this one has been great so far and our screens are cleaner and I am not worried about down time now....

Sam
Title: Re: Pressure washer??
Post by: mk162 on January 02, 2012, 11:15:22 AM
they must have changed, ours is made in the USA.
Title: Re: Pressure washer??
Post by: theSignShop on January 02, 2012, 11:25:13 AM
We recently purchased a CamSpray 1500A for $675 from pressurewashersdirect.com. It is quiet so your neighbors will not care if you have it running, they might not even hear it! The northern tool ones are cheaper by about $200 or so, but are made in China rather than US.

pierre
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Please spend the extra money and buy American! That cheap crap from China is what's ruining our country!!!!!
Title: Re: Pressure washer??
Post by: Aggink on January 02, 2012, 03:57:55 PM
After thirty years plus, the best I've found is the Kranzle K1600 built in Gemany. They are available thru US online sales. About $750. Can run in bypass mode for hours without overheating. So quiet you may forget and leave it running.
Title: Re: Pressure washer??
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on January 05, 2012, 10:44:11 PM
We recently purchased a CamSpray 1500A for $675 from pressurewashersdirect.com. It is quiet so your neighbors will not care if you have it running, they might not even hear it! The northern tool ones are cheaper by about $200 or so, but are made in China rather than US.

pierre
Please spend the extra money and buy American! That cheap crap from China is what's ruining our country!!!!!
[/quote]Are there any quiet pressure washers for less money? I need to get a quieter one because the cheapie I use now is close to my ears above my washout booth but my money is tight right now. I guess earplugs would be cheaper.
Title: Re: Pressure washer??
Post by: mk162 on January 06, 2012, 08:30:57 AM
Half the problem with pressure washers is not the loudness of the washer itself, but cleaning 230 & higher mesh.  The water screams going through there...I wear ear protection for those.
Title: Re: Pressure washer??
Post by: Socalfmf on January 06, 2012, 09:39:34 AM
we wear PPE for all powerwashing...hearing gloves and eyes....

plain and simple.  if you don't want to wear it you dont work here.

sam
Title: Re: Pressure washer??
Post by: blue moon on January 06, 2012, 09:47:45 AM
we wear PPE for all powerwashing...hearing gloves and eyes....

plain and simple.  if you don't want to wear it you dont work here.

sam

same here, full battle gear at the washout station . . .

On another related topic, get the fixed nozzle for the wand. We tried the adjustable, 40deg and 25 deg and have settled on the fixed 40. The water output is more even.

pierre
Title: Re: Pressure washer??
Post by: Zelko-4-EVA on January 06, 2012, 10:11:41 AM
i have rebuilt a few pressure washers, and built a pressure washer modeled after one that failed.

general pumps and leeson motors

http://www.dultmeier.com/products/search/4138 (http://www.dultmeier.com/products/search/4138)  -  pump for $255.
IPYVB135KDM  - unloader for above pump - $53.60
i dont remember which motor i bought, but it fit the pump perfect -  $ 284.55
one safety valve to prevent motor from overheating - $10

i reused the hose and wand from the old washer

all for about $603.15 plus shipping.   

this replaced a pressure washer that died, it worked for about 7 or 8 years before the motor wouldnt start - a plastic cooling fan shattered inside the motor and prevented the motor from turning.  the pump had been rebuilt a few times and so i bought a new setup and bolted it to the old frame.  copied what the last person made and saved about $600 (looking at the sales receipt from 8 years ago).

my favorite are belt driven electric pressure washers - slower speed will make the pumps last longer. 

dultmeier was friendly on the phone and had all the parts that i needed.  the last company that i bought from was disorganized and couldnt get me pricing over the phone without having to call me back hours later.

needless to say, we always use ear protection - earmuffs or earplugs,  also required are gloves, apron and face shield.  no need to sacrifice ones health over washing screens.

if you filter the water before the pressure washer it will make your pump last longer too...
Title: Re: Pressure washer??
Post by: jsheridan on January 06, 2012, 10:18:50 AM
I wear ear protection for those.

I wear ear protection all day via headphone style muffs that block 33db. The shop is LOUD and I back that up with my noise cancelling Shure ear buds connected to Pandora when I'm washing.