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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: im_mcguire on August 06, 2020, 05:09:55 PM

Title: M&R Global Copperhead
Post by: im_mcguire on August 06, 2020, 05:09:55 PM
Looks really nice.  Reminds me of Roq but I'm sure there are their differences.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoNcIie7fLw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoNcIie7fLw)
Title: Re: M&R Global Copperhead
Post by: zanegun08 on August 06, 2020, 05:32:08 PM
It's like a ROQ and MHM had a baby.

I find it interesting that their global offerings are so drastically different than their US offerings.

Like the VictoryOne Chinese CNTOP press, when will we see these superior features on the Copperhead and VictoryOne make it to the US market presses?
Title: Re: M&R Global Copperhead
Post by: DannyGruninger on August 06, 2020, 05:34:45 PM
Nice looking press..... can you buy one here in the states? The tri loc pallet looked interesting but really nice. From the first look 2 thumbs up on this one.....
Title: Re: M&R Global Copperhead
Post by: TCT on August 06, 2020, 05:53:46 PM
It looks EXACTLY like the old Imaes(SP?) presses from Portugal, they were even blue. It's like they didn't even try to be original with this one or the VictoryOne. Is this one made in China also?
Title: Re: M&R Global Copperhead
Post by: zanegun08 on August 06, 2020, 06:40:57 PM
Is this one made in China also?

Made in Mumbai India
Title: Re: M&R Global Copperhead
Post by: Rockers on August 06, 2020, 11:37:06 PM
That press better be cheap. Otherwise I would not know why they made it in the first place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4DBpZNY9S8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4DBpZNY9S8)
Title: Re: M&R Global Copperhead
Post by: abchung on August 07, 2020, 09:27:39 PM
this explains it.
https://youtu.be/1AJ_2qKhffs (https://youtu.be/1AJ_2qKhffs)
Title: Re: M&R Global Copperhead
Post by: Rockers on August 07, 2020, 10:16:34 PM
this explains it.
https://youtu.be/1AJ_2qKhffs (https://youtu.be/1AJ_2qKhffs)
You mind giving me a summery of what was said or which part of the interview actually relates to the M&R Global equipment and why India was chosen.
I rarely find the time between printing and spending time with my dog to watch as well long drawn out interviews.
Title: Re: M&R Global Copperhead
Post by: abchung on August 08, 2020, 12:19:41 AM
if I am not wrong about the clip:

alot of Asian screen printers find the M&R press from USA an over kill. So they want to bring out a more "economical" press for the market.




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Title: Re: M&R Global Copperhead
Post by: californiadreamin on August 08, 2020, 04:12:11 AM
if I am not wrong about the clip:

alot of Asian screen printers find the M&R press from USA an over kill. So they want to bring out a more "economical" press for the market.



You are correct!
Decision on manufacturing in India was decided well before Covid.
Reality is USA market hit critical mass in the USA few years ago, and sales growth in the USA
Have fallen big time. Southeast Asia is the worlds hottest growth market for the next number of years.
They realized this after ownership of company changed hands. Industry in the USA has enjoyed “brand”
As a cash cow. The rest of the world, will only pay so much for “brand” advantage only is worth so much,
Will copy it, improve it at lower cost. Simple economics! And now the “ Perfect Storm”. Rise of digital,
Covid, etc.  Now it will be fast tracked in order to try to survive. IMHO they see growth in Asia, and can hold
On to sales in the USA/ Latin America under this new model. Difficult to do! There is now a “glut” of used and bank owned equipment, and will be for a long time, which is going to hurt “new” sales big time.
And the big reality, is transfer of this industries technology to other countries has already happened!
Only in the USA do you see, we only buy this or that “brand”. Rest of the world, is more interested in price, function. They match component to component, and function as most important. They also value simpicity.
For me, i will buy USA made products if possible. I also support “Buy Local”. Better for our communities.
Winston


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Title: Re: M&R Global Copperhead
Post by: dirkdiggler on August 08, 2020, 10:37:02 AM
You gotta laugh at this. ;D
Title: Re: M&R Global Copperhead
Post by: TCT on August 11, 2020, 01:19:01 PM
So seeing this machine was driving me crazy because I KNEW I saw it somewhere. When India was brought up it all clicked. There WAS a company in India that made the exact same machine in orange, Grafica Flextronica. Well if you now try to go to the Grafica Flextronica web page it has been taken down and directs you to go to M & R Global... So M&R must of just bought them and changed the color!  ;D

 As of right now they haven't killed the Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/graficaflextronica/ (https://www.facebook.com/graficaflextronica/)
Title: Re: M&R Global Copperhead
Post by: rusty on August 11, 2020, 01:22:31 PM
So seeing this machine was driving me crazy because I KNEW I saw it somewhere. When India was brought up it all clicked. There WAS a company in India that made the exact same machine in orange, Grafica Flextronica. Well if you now try to go to the Grafica Flextronica web page it has been taken down and directs you to go to M & R Global... So M&R must of just bought them and changed the color!  ;D

 As of right now they haven't killed the Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/graficaflextronica/ (https://www.facebook.com/graficaflextronica/)

Is that the same company that Andy Macdougall use to rep on his site?
Title: Re: M&R Global Copperhead
Post by: TCT on August 11, 2020, 01:28:10 PM
So seeing this machine was driving me crazy because I KNEW I saw it somewhere. When India was brought up it all clicked. There WAS a company in India that made the exact same machine in orange, Grafica Flextronica. Well if you now try to go to the Grafica Flextronica web page it has been taken down and directs you to go to M & R Global... So M&R must of just bought them and changed the color!  ;D

 As of right now they haven't killed the Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/graficaflextronica/ (https://www.facebook.com/graficaflextronica/)

Is that the same company that Andy Macdougall use to rep on his site?

Was he in like Ohio or something? They had 1 "dealer" in the states and I want to say it was in Ohio/Indiana area. I could be totally wrong though. Since M & R took their old website down you can't look it up anymore. If I have time later I'll look back through my old emails because I had talked with them once a long while back.
Title: Re: M&R Global Copperhead
Post by: ZooCity on August 11, 2020, 02:44:18 PM
Is that the same company that Andy Macdougall use to rep on his site?

It is.  I really liked the format of the flatstock machines they sold, would buy one if it were available stateside.
Title: Re: M&R Global Copperhead
Post by: TCT on August 11, 2020, 02:56:06 PM
Is that the same company that Andy Macdougall use to rep on his site?

It is.  I really liked the format of the flatstock machines they sold, would buy one if it were available stateside.

You'll be able to now, it will just be a different color now. Hopefully they will be able to support them stateside. I really liked their tag printers, but having no one stateside to help with them(the person I talked to here was less than comforting) I decided to pass.
Title: Re: M&R Global Copperhead
Post by: rusty on August 11, 2020, 02:58:54 PM
Is that the same company that Andy Macdougall use to rep on his site?

It is.  I really liked the format of the flatstock machines they sold, would buy one if it were available stateside.

Yeah it had the the whole frame go up and down instead of like the standard clamshell, if I remember correctly. Would have gone for one if I had been a bit more serious at the time.
Title: Re: M&R Global Copperhead
Post by: ebscreen on August 11, 2020, 03:18:36 PM
We talking about the parallel lift machines, Jaguar or something?
I thought those were out of SA, though I suppose they have jaguars in India as well.
Title: Re: M&R Global Copperhead
Post by: rusty on August 11, 2020, 03:27:30 PM
this is what Iwas thinking of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZTW5Ysfu7I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZTW5Ysfu7I)
Title: Re: M&R Global Copperhead
Post by: ZooCity on August 11, 2020, 04:22:37 PM
Just leopards.
Title: Re: M&R Global Copperhead
Post by: ebscreen on August 11, 2020, 04:34:11 PM
Just leopards.

Dogs>cats
Title: Re: M&R Global Copperhead
Post by: Frog on August 11, 2020, 04:38:35 PM
We talking about the parallel lift machines, Jaguar or something?
I thought those were out of SA, though I suppose they have jaguars in India as well.

Sure they have Jaguars in India! They even assemble some of the XJ's and XS's there (albeit from British parts)
Title: Re: M&R Global Copperhead
Post by: ebscreen on August 11, 2020, 04:40:00 PM
Andy I was dismayed to find that the first google results were for the automobile and not the animal.

But,  WTH was Bagheera then?
Title: Re: M&R Global Copperhead
Post by: Frog on August 11, 2020, 05:11:16 PM
Andy I was dismayed to find that the first google results were for the automobile and not the animal.

But,  WTH was Bagheera then?

Wasn't he a Black Panther?
Title: Re: M&R Global Copperhead
Post by: Rockers on August 11, 2020, 09:53:27 PM
Is that the same company that Andy Macdougall use to rep on his site?

It is.  I really liked the format of the flatstock machines they sold, would buy one if it were available stateside.

You'll be able to now, it will just be a different color now. Hopefully they will be able to support them stateside. I really liked their tag printers, but having no one stateside to help with them(the person I talked to here was less than comforting) I decided to pass.
The blue paint will make them probably more expensive too.