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screen printing => Ink and Chemicals => Topic started by: Mr Tees!! on December 17, 2020, 01:05:01 PM

Title: Nylobond on poly windbreakers?
Post by: Mr Tees!! on December 17, 2020, 01:05:01 PM
Hey gang!

Printing some Independent windbreakers, 100% polyester.I have several low-cure inks available to me, but being that these are kinda smooth windbreakers, should I use a nylobond? And will that affect the lower cure temp?

I'm also a bit concerned about cracking, as these will be fairly abused and washed 
Title: Re: Nylobond on poly windbreakers?
Post by: Orion on December 17, 2020, 01:57:38 PM
I have used One Stroke ELT, no additives, on poly windbreakers, but please contact them to verify that.
Title: Re: Nylobond on poly windbreakers?
Post by: Rockers on December 17, 2020, 08:58:02 PM
Hey gang!

Printing some Independent windbreakers, 100% polyester.I have several low-cure inks available to me, but being that these are kinda smooth windbreakers, should I use a nylobond? And will that affect the lower cure temp?

I'm also a bit concerned about cracking, as these will be fairly abused and washed
Smoothy in what way? We use International Coatings 901 series. Works very well.You need of course the nylon bond additive too. Will soon try out Matsui 701 stretch white, without any additive.
Title: Re: Nylobond on poly windbreakers?
Post by: brandon on December 17, 2020, 09:25:29 PM
Forgot plastisol. Use water base either Aqou Hybrid Air or Permaset Air or Matsui with low cure additive. Run them through very little heat just dry to touch and give 48 hours for full cure.
Title: Re: Nylobond on poly windbreakers?
Post by: Pangea on December 17, 2020, 09:53:01 PM
Forgot plastisol. Use water base either Aqou Hybrid Air or Permaset Air or Matsui with low cure additive. Run them through very little heat just dry to touch and give 48 hours for full cure.

Not to question you Brandon, I know we've all got long days right now but curious. Permaset Premium I'm guessing, Matsui w/ low cure makes sense, what's the other one?
Title: Re: Nylobond on poly windbreakers?
Post by: brandon on December 17, 2020, 09:59:19 PM
Forgot plastisol. Use water base either Aqou Hybrid Air or Permaset Air or Matsui with low cure additive. Run them through very little heat just dry to touch and give 48 hours for full cure.

Not to question you Brandon, I know we've all got long days right now but curious. Permaset Premium I'm guessing, Matsui w/ low cure makes sense, what's the other one?

Hey! Up front thanks for the hats those rule! For the ink Aquo inks it is the hybrid series. Made by WBI or Water Base International up in Pittsburgh. They also carry Permaset. Matsui you can get lots of places. But Aquo has a full line of RFU water base inks that are very nice
Title: Re: Nylobond on poly windbreakers?
Post by: inkman996 on December 18, 2020, 08:23:02 AM
Nylobond is not a low cure additive. It is an additive to allow adhesion to nylon, you still have to cure the plastisol to the recommended settings. Also nylobond makes the ink brittle and subject to cracking.
Title: Re: Nylobond on poly windbreakers?
Post by: Sbrem on December 18, 2020, 08:35:08 AM
I don't believe we've every used Nylobond on 100% poly, since it's made specifically for nylon. Since we are mostly plastisol here, we would use a poly blocking ink and move on.

Steve
Title: Re: Nylobond on poly windbreakers?
Post by: BRGtshirts on December 19, 2020, 10:54:32 AM
Agreed. 100% poly plastisol ink with a dye blocker base. Would work fine.
Title: Re: Nylobond on poly windbreakers?
Post by: Rockers on December 20, 2020, 01:03:43 AM
Nylobond is not a low cure additive. It is an additive to allow adhesion to nylon, you still have to cure the plastisol to the recommended settings. Also nylobond makes the ink brittle and subject to cracking.
Well it’s not advertised as a low cure additive as such but it still allows for curing at very low temperatures. As a matter of fact the ink will cross link even at room temperature it just takes a few days.