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screen printing => General Screen Printing => Topic started by: Dottonedan on January 12, 2012, 05:05:34 PM
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Sort of a (throw a shoe at him) kind of question, but do any of you run an air conditioned production area? I know of one shop that has his only dryer, a large dryer set up half way in his shop and half way out. The exit of the dryer was sitting still inside the building, but on the outside of the shop area and it was walled off so not a lot of hot air was coming back in the air side. The shop area was probably 75-80 degrees inside (in Florida) during the summer.
Anyone else do anything like this?
D
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I think about it every day. When I own the building I will do something like that.
Matt
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I would love that. With temps in the 100s outside in the summer even 85-90 degrees inside would be nice.
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I think Fred (Duke of York) had one of those setups.
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I've thought about running a vent over the loading areas and the end of the dryer, just to take the edge off.
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We are an air conditioned shop in central Fl. The production floor is 2000sq ft with two autos and a mini sprint dryer.
During the summer we are at 80-82 degrees depending on if the flashes are on on. I wouldn't do it any other way.
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We are air conditioned. Three autos and one manual. Nine flash units (3 are quartz). Two Sprint 2000 dryers. I've vented, and insulated, but still need AC. It was over 120
last summer. I can't expect people to work in that. Might be different if it was just me. I set the AC at 85. It still kicks in once in a while, like today, when it's 20 degrees
outside.
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worked in a bunch of shops with AC. Mostly on the East coast but it sure makes the job easier.
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There is a 2500 sq ft shop with AC for 1100 a month that I would love to be in but I am locked into a lease.
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When I took over the screen printing department, I had several goals in mind. One was to get new equipment, press and dryer, and the one of the other main goals was to AC the shop. It might take another year or two but I can't expect the guys to work in 115 degree heat for 3 months straight. It really takes a toll mentally more than physically. As many of you know, it will start to drive you crazy, it will also wear on your relationships at work and at home. This past summer was the worst on record. Something like 90 days of 100+ heat, with no rain. I've done it for 6 summers now and I'm done with it so it's my next major goal.
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I can't expect the guys to work in 115 degree heat for 3 months straight. It really takes a toll mentally more than physically.
The first 9 years of my printing life were spent working in Florida shops printing shirts with not a single AC in sight.. 9 months out of the year it was over 95 in the shop, the other 3 it was over 110. It's a right of passage, let em sweat it out.
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AC here, too. . . my guys don't know how good they have it!
pierre
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In my first job, we had AC, but it was graphic printing, no dryers. But since '75, proudly serving in the heat. 12 foot ceilings make AC not realistic. It's mid nineties all summer, with occasional 100° days...
Steve
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I can't expect the guys to work in 115 degree heat for 3 months straight. It really takes a toll mentally more than physically.
The first 9 years of my printing life were spent working in Florida shops printing shirts with not a single AC in sight.. 9 months out of the year it was over 95 in the shop, the other 3 it was over 110. It's a right of passage, let em sweat it out.
I do want the new guys to have it rough but my crew now is tenured long enough to know how good they would have it with an AC shop. One guy has been here 3 years and the other just over 2 years. But this past summer was plenty enough to where nobody will ever forget it or take the AC for granted. I always tell the girls next door when they get a little attitude just how good they've got it. Imagine doing all that work they do in 115 instead of 75, then that makes them understand they've got it pretty good.
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We have 25 foot ceilings now but I would put a drop ceiling and insulate the hell out of it. I wouldn't AC the entire shop though, just about 1/2 of it and leave the rest to the heat. With the new dryer, I don't think we would have the problems that we would have with the old dryer, that american just put out so much ambient heat that the AC would really struggle, regardless of whether or not it was twice as big as it should be for the square footage. Overall, about 2500sq/ft would be AC'd, with an 8' ceiling.
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We have 25 foot ceilings now but I would put a drop ceiling and insulate the hell out of it. I wouldn't AC the entire shop though, just about 1/2 of it and leave the rest to the heat. With the new dryer, I don't think we would have the problems that we would have with the old dryer, that american just put out so much ambient heat that the AC would really struggle, regardless of whether or not it was twice as big as it should be for the square footage. Overall, about 2500sq/ft would be AC'd, with an 8' ceiling.
we have low ceilings and two AC units. The space is about 3k sq feet, half embroidery and half screenprinting. THe side walls are insulated pretty well, but the roof is sheet metal. I had a warehouse in the same building and without generating any heat, the summer temps would reach 100 deg every now and then. Our AC bill is probably about $350 in the hottest summer months so it adds up to less than $2k per year. While that is a lot of money, the increased productivity and morale are worth every penny of it!
here's the pix of the unit before we moved in
pierre
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My dryer is located in a non-air conditioned part of the bld. Just the input of the dryer sticks through the wall. The summer of 2010 we were set up completely in the non air side. Florida summer would get the temp up to 105 in our small area. It's sooooo much nicer now.
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We have air thru out the shop and yep its nice during the summer months as it gets hot as heck here.
Darryl
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How about running an optional graveyard shift during the summer months. I guess you would have to have the whole crew on board for that to work though.
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How about running an optional graveyard shift during the summer months. I guess you would have to have the whole crew on board for that to work though.
Yaint from round these parts er ya feller? That's a good thought and in the middle and northern states would be a great idea.
Dowon heaha in Flo da, our nights stay muggy and sink into the high 80,s I bets me some money they's gett'n inta bout 95-100 degrees still at night with the doors open and the fans a blow'n. It might save 10 degrees off from the day work tho.
Arizona is recorded as THE hottest place in the US to live (on average). So I'm sure they got the same problems " but it's a dry heat". So they say.
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It will be in the 100s in my neck of the woods. I am in the central part of California. Coast weather or the great weather you hear about California does not apply to us.
With the flash running my little 800 sq ft has to be 110-115 at the hot part of the day.
I have visited Flo Da and you can keep that weather! lol. Raining while the sun is out, Raining on one side of the street and not the other all the while its 90 degrees and sunny. Strange weather for you Flo Da folks! ;D
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After our fire in 2004, we put in an evaporation cooler (aka swamp cooler)
It will cool down spots of the shop but not the entire shop.
Cheap mans ac.
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That would be good for printing water based ink in the summer.
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How about running an optional graveyard shift during the summer months. I guess you would have to have the whole crew on board for that to work though.
Yaint from round these parts er ya feller? That's a good thought and in the middle and northern states would be a great idea.
Dowon heaha in Flo da, our nights stay muggy and sink into the high 80,s I bets me some money they's gett'n inta bout 95-100 degrees still at night with the doors open and the fans a blow'n. It might save 10 degrees off from the day work tho.
I run a second shift here in Nashville and the cool nights are a perk. When i ran Harlequin in Fort Myers we had eight presses two shifts. Second shift ran till 3:00 am.
In Ft Myers it's still muggy and hot so no perk there except the beach!
Arizona is recorded as THE hottest place in the US to live (on average). So I'm sure they got the same problems " but it's a dry heat". So they say.