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Title: Alternatives to Rutland Super Poly White?
Post by: sunday on October 04, 2021, 10:25:01 PM
Hi y'all!

We've been using Rutland's Super Poly White as our main polyester white ink here for ages, but we've recently run into an issue procuring it (who isn't running into procurement issues these days?). Consequently, we're looking around for a good substitute for Super Poly White, if not something that performs better than what Rutland offers.

Our supplier recommended that we use Rutland Endurance Plus White in the meantime, but it isn't working out for us like we hoped. It gets puffy when it cures, much puffier than Super Poly White, and the detail is getting blown out. We've tried a few different things -- 1 pull print-flash-print, 2 pulls wet-on-wet, running it on multiple dryer settings -- and the results aren't looking good.

What are y'all using for polyester white ink? Any tips and tricks to make this Endurance Plus White work better?

Thanks kindly for the help! :)

Title: Re: Alternatives to Rutland Super Poly White?
Post by: BP on October 05, 2021, 06:29:18 AM
We used super poly for years. And I don't like Rutland Endurance Plus. This spring I went to One Strokes ELT-X. I will say the Rutland Endurance Plus2 is not bad.
Title: Re: Alternatives to Rutland Super Poly White?
Post by: Steve12Lowry on October 05, 2021, 10:02:18 AM
Hi y'all!

We've been using Rutland's Super Poly White as our main polyester white ink here for ages, but we've recently run into an issue procuring it (who isn't running into procurement issues these days?). Consequently, we're looking around for a good substitute for Super Poly White, if not something that performs better than what Rutland offers.

Our supplier recommended that we use Rutland Endurance Plus White in the meantime, but it isn't working out for us like we hoped. It gets puffy when it cures, much puffier than Super Poly White, and the detail is getting blown out. We've tried a few different things -- 1 pull print-flash-print, 2 pulls wet-on-wet, running it on multiple dryer settings -- and the results aren't looking good.

What are y'all using for polyester white ink? Any tips and tricks to make this Endurance Plus White work better?

Thanks kindly for the help! :)

Are you curing the Endurance at 280 degrees? 

The Union UPLC-1070 Gen2 and 1071 Gen2 are very good poly inks with similar bleed resistance as the super poly.
Title: Re: Alternatives to Rutland Super Poly White?
Post by: 3Deep on October 05, 2021, 11:00:03 AM
Try International Coatings 7022 white ink not bad and the puff is low at least on my terms it is
Title: Re: Alternatives to Rutland Super Poly White?
Post by: sunday on October 05, 2021, 04:10:00 PM
We used super poly for years. And I don't like Rutland Endurance Plus. This spring I went to One Strokes ELT-X. I will say the Rutland Endurance Plus2 is not bad.

We've got some ELT-X in our shop, but we haven't used it as a sub-in for Super Poly.

What's the difference between Endurance Plus and Endurance Plus 2?
Title: Re: Alternatives to Rutland Super Poly White?
Post by: sunday on October 05, 2021, 04:12:12 PM

Are you curing the Endurance at 280 degrees? 

The Union UPLC-1070 Gen2 and 1071 Gen2 are very good poly inks with similar bleed resistance as the super poly.

I believe we were curing it around that temp, but the detail was getting really lost.

Thanks for those suggestions! I'll look into that Union ink.
Title: Re: Alternatives to Rutland Super Poly White?
Post by: sunday on October 05, 2021, 04:13:28 PM
Try International Coatings 7022 white ink not bad and the puff is low at least on my terms it is

Thanks for that suggestion! What's the cure temp like on that ink?
Title: Re: Alternatives to Rutland Super Poly White?
Post by: 3Deep on October 05, 2021, 05:12:34 PM
275, it's good for cotton and poly
Title: Re: Alternatives to Rutland Super Poly White?
Post by: Sbrem on October 06, 2021, 09:35:56 AM
My partner tells me they moved to Triangle's poly when they couldn't get the Rutland, and like it, they find it "creamier"...

Steve
Title: Re: Alternatives to Rutland Super Poly White?
Post by: scott316 on October 06, 2021, 04:01:25 PM
The texsourcs ultra poly white has been a good drop in from what I have seen.
Title: Re: Alternatives to Rutland Super Poly White?
Post by: sunday on October 07, 2021, 01:06:41 AM
My partner tells me they moved to Triangle's poly when they couldn't get the Rutland, and like it, they find it "creamier"...

Steve

Thanks kindly for that suggestion! I've got a gallon bucket of it on order. :)
Title: Re: Alternatives to Rutland Super Poly White?
Post by: sunday on October 07, 2021, 01:08:47 AM
The texsourcs ultra poly white has been a good drop in from what I have seen.

Thanks for suggesting that! We've ordered from Texsource in the past and had good results with some of their in-house products. I don't know if it's an issue on my end or theirs, but I can't get their site to load to check out their Ultra Poly White.