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Artist => General Art Discussions => Topic started by: blue moon on February 09, 2023, 12:52:11 AM
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Just getting started so no idea if anything will come of it, be we are trying to put together a super simple but powerful graphics designer. Something that could be used in house or offered to customers. It will be for profit business so there would be a fee after beta testing. Would love some feedback on how useful this would be, some ideas for options and what kind of monthly subscription would make sense.
Any thoughts would be much appreciated. Let me know here if you'd like to test it if we can make it work.
pierre
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prompt for this was school rock band. It took about 5-10min to get to this design.
Ultimately, anybody here could learn to use the MJ without paying us, so let me know if I can help. This would probably be a very good tool to pass on to customers so they can design their own instead of wasting your time. It can be a paid option on the web site or something that can be monetized...
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I am interested and would like to test this out. I just signed up for the beta on discord.
I do have concerns about this and using artist artwork (similar artwork) without permission but looking forward to playing around with it this weekend
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is the only file option a PNG? I'm fine with that -just curious.
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I have played around with MJ a bit. I am curious is there a way yet to add text as in your image or is it something you will always have to add additionally after an image is created?
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If you could automate this to work for apparel that would be pretty amazing.
Feedback would be to make the user interface more modern, it currently looks like pre Windows 95. If this is going to be paid, the UI should be a major consideration.
I'd be curious to see how this plans on dealing with hard edges, as well as getting transparent backgrounds.
Are you a DTG printer? Wondering how high of resolution this can get, I know it could be paired with AI upscaling.
Looks like a cool project, I'd be happy to test it out, but that UI would really turn me away from paying or referring clients to / having a portal without warning them "Hey it's a rad tool to rapid prototype designs, but don't be put off by the UI as the tool works great". You know, first impressions count.
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If you could automate this to work for apparel that would be pretty amazing.
Feedback would be to make the user interface more modern, it currently looks like pre Windows 95. If this is going to be paid, the UI should be a major consideration.
I'd be curious to see how this plans on dealing with hard edges, as well as getting transparent backgrounds.
Are you a DTG printer? Wondering how high of resolution this can get, I know it could be paired with AI upscaling.
Looks like a cool project, I'd be happy to test it out, but that UI would really turn me away from paying or referring clients to / having a portal without warning them "Hey it's a rad tool to rapid prototype designs, but don't be put off by the UI as the tool works great". You know, first impressions count.
can you point me to a different UI? We can adjust...
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I am interested and would like to test this out. I just signed up for the beta on discord.
I do have concerns about this and using artist artwork (similar artwork) without permission but looking forward to playing around with it this weekend
it creates it's own art so it is all original. You can pay $600 per year and get full licensing rights to use commercially.
This is just the mockup so the AI guys know what we need. That's why the feedback is important. No idea when it will be available could be days, could be months.
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is the only file option a PNG? I'm fine with that -just curious.
png is the best raster format.
Not sure about doing vector, it can probably be done, but if we decide to pursue it, it would be later down the road.
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I have played around with MJ a bit. I am curious is there a way yet to add text as in your image or is it something you will always have to add additionally after an image is created?
MJ does not do text. Has something to do with the way it generates the art. It really does not know what it is doing. Think of it as a monkey with a typewriter. It sees ppl typing and mimics them. There is no thinking involved, literally throwing random bits together to see what sticks kinda way...
That's why we are looking at adding a layer on top that would incorporate the text.
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If you could automate this to work for apparel that would be pretty amazing.
Feedback would be to make the user interface more modern, it currently looks like pre Windows 95. If this is going to be paid, the UI should be a major consideration.
I'd be curious to see how this plans on dealing with hard edges, as well as getting transparent backgrounds.
Are you a DTG printer? Wondering how high of resolution this can get, I know it could be paired with AI upscaling.
Looks like a cool project, I'd be happy to test it out, but that UI would really turn me away from paying or referring clients to / having a portal without warning them "Hey it's a rad tool to rapid prototype designs, but don't be put off by the UI as the tool works great". You know, first impressions count.
I have an idea on how to provide the art on transparent background. Should be up and running pretty soon after the proof of concept.
If we manage to convert it to vector, the size would not matter.
Another goal is to have it talk to AI upscaler. It will probably be an option to select so you can specify the size. Not really sure yet, but the gist of it is "Yes, we will be able to provide actual size files at 300dpi!" so jaggy edges should not be an issue.
All of these are minor points. Big issue is going to be training the AI model so it knows it's dealing with T-Shirts. We have two world class AI programmers involved so it will all depend on can we get enough data and what it would cost to train the AI (it would require a lot of pretty expensive computer time). We are throwing some seed money at it and are hoping it sticks...
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Looks like a cool idea and I could see the benefits especially for the tire kickers on art, and you could resell the tool to maybe the major players.
For UI, you could get something like this https://codecanyon.net/item/ultimate-addons-for-custom-product-designer-woocommerce-opencart-prestashop/23438365 (https://codecanyon.net/item/ultimate-addons-for-custom-product-designer-woocommerce-opencart-prestashop/23438365) to do a rapid prototype.
But I'd look to the major online designers for inspiration on layout.
Custom Ink
Canva
https://mock-it.co
https://placeit.net
Bonfire.com
Teespring.com
Obviously the tech is important, but usability is as well.
Could have a click box for Vector or Raster style artwork, click DTG, DTF, Screenprint, Vinyl, Sticker, ect. and it would create different styles of images as an idea, and different output options. I like PNG though, that is what most DTG online printers request for their file format.
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I am interested and would like to test this out. I just signed up for the beta on discord.
I do have concerns about this and using artist artwork (similar artwork) without permission but looking forward to playing around with it this weekend
it creates it's own art so it is all original. You can pay $600 per year and get full licensing rights to use commercially.
This is just the mockup so the AI guys know what we need. That's why the feedback is important. No idea when it will be available could be days, could be months.
Interesting. Thanks for clarifying.
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how's this?
I'll probably get rid of the two buttons under the shirt...
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That looks nicer, put me on your list for beta testing.
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My thoughts on this may be incorrect, but you did ask for our thoughts on this. So no harm no foul.
The AI is obviously cool to get into and play with. For someone who’s worked in this for getting design sources for production use and providing that to the customer, could be very beneficial. Like perhaps now, you can make use of an entry level or good production artist (not designer or Illustrator) to delve in and assisting providing AI art. They just need to be computer savvy enough to get in there and make a decent image or a great image with AI assistance. So it could be very beneficial for internal use. For that alone, it may be beneficial for your Co to have this at their fingertips.
For outside use (customer use), I don’t see it taking off well. Again, I could be wrong. I see this (for yours customers) being much like the (create your own art or online designer) on our websites. That didn’t go gang busters for anyone at a medium to small size. I think this would take the same road (as it pertains to your customers). You had to be a Custom Ink or one or two of the others that size. The (doing it yourself) part is irritating to customers. Most will try it out and retreat/give up. They want it fast and easy or for someone in your company to do it for them. They trust you more than themselves. For someone to be enticed to do the design themselves, it has to literally be 1 click and done.
For the look of it, It’s as good as many of the DTG software out there. This actually looks better.
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That looks nicer, put me on your list for beta testing.
we've done a slight pivot so the proposed idea got pushed back a little, but it's still coming.
Pierre
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My thoughts on this may be incorrect, but you did ask for our thoughts on this. So no harm no foul.
The AI is obviously cool to get into and play with. For someone who’s worked in this for getting design sources for production use and providing that to the customer, could be very beneficial. Like perhaps now, you can make use of an entry level or good production artist (not designer or Illustrator) to delve in and assisting providing AI art. They just need to be computer savvy enough to get in there and make a decent image or a great image with AI assistance. So it could be very beneficial for internal use. For that alone, it may be beneficial for your Co to have this at their fingertips.
For outside use (customer use), I don’t see it taking off well. Again, I could be wrong. I see this (for yours customers) being much like the (create your own art or online designer) on our websites. That didn’t go gang busters for anyone at a medium to small size. I think this would take the same road (as it pertains to your customers). You had to be a Custom Ink or one or two of the others that size. The (doing it yourself) part is irritating to customers. Most will try it out and retreat/give up. They want it fast and easy or for someone in your company to do it for them. They trust you more than themselves. For someone to be enticed to do the design themselves, it has to literally be 1 click and done.
For the look of it, It’s as good as many of the DTG software out there. This actually looks better.
thank you for the feedback!
One thing we bring to the table is a world class AI engineer. The idea is to customize the prompting to make it give out good results even with bad prompts. I believe we can make this a 2-3 clicks operation. That should make a difference with the attrition rate, both 1st time users and experienced designers (clearly somebody knowledgeable will be getting a whole lot more out of the tool though).
we'll see how things work out in the end...
pierre