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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: broadway on January 24, 2012, 03:32:13 PM
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Looking for any thoughts on IR flash units. I am only interested in the M&R Reno or the Habanero. The Reno is about $3000 which is the least expensive one they carry.. Quartz is out of the question. I also only use plastisol inks. I looked at the BBC auto flash ($1200) but that will not work with side clamps. Has anyone retro fitted an older omni flash to use with side clamps?
Thanks, Peter
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if i could offer some advice, PLEASE DON'T dismiss Quartz! I own a diamond back and have used IR and quartz in the past. I bought the cayanne for mine. Smartest thing I did besides buying an M&R press. You won't regret the extra couple of grand. Trust me!
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why is quartz out? I would go with a quartz...it will keep your production speed up...I wish i had one....
sam
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why is quartz out? I would go with a quartz...it will keep your production speed up...I wish i had one....
sam
Who told you that rumor? ;D You can print just as fast with an IR. Its never slowed us down.
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why is quartz out? I would go with a quartz...it will keep your production speed up...I wish i had one....
sam
I only have 100 amp, single phase service at my garage shop. My house has the other 100 amps. I am maxed out electric wise. I also have pool, hot tub, AC, compressor... I currently have an Omni Flash which is 240V/ 1 Phase at 18 amps. Not worried about production speed with the IR flash. Depending on the design my flash dwell is 3-5 seconds which is about my load speed. The only drawback for me with the IR flash is that it can be on for hours at a time. I would like to some how set up the omni flash on the Diamondback. I will measure its width and contact m&r to see if it possible to use with side clamps. The flash is currently being used on my Gauntlet which has front/back clamps. Also everything is electric, gas/propane where i live is not an option, right now.
Peter
Peter
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..I use the Serrano, it shuttles in and out without being attached to the press, so it can just push up to any head. I can also position the flash at the unload station when I have to run a full six-color design (use Revolver mode!).. 8)
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..I use the Serrano, it shuttles in and out without being attached to the press, so it can just push up to any head. I can also position the flash at the unload station when I have to run a full six-color design (use Revolver mode!).. 8)
Thanks, Mr Tees
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Which is cheaper to use the IR or the Quartz flash I have both types
Darryl
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Broadway, it sounds like you let your toys get in the way of your work. ;D
There was a guy here that had to run a switch between his AC unit and dryer. He couldn't run both at the same time, so when he printed in the summer, his house was hot as crap. In the winter he was fine.
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Broadway, it sounds like you let your toys get in the way of your work. ;D
There was a guy here that had to run a switch between his AC unit and dryer. He couldn't run both at the same time, so when he printed in the summer, his house was hot as crap. In the winter he was fine.
Sold all the toys long time ago . Hot tub for winter, pool for summer. I live in a resort area and once summer comes it is easier swim in my backyard than it is to deal with tourist, especially with 3 kids. I do not have any problems with electricity, just looking to get replace existing auto and flash. Anybody else using an IR flash with their Diamondback?
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I know you said quartz is out of the question but if you can manage the cost difference, it's well worth the investment. I can't see myself ever going back to IR.
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They both have their place, and they both produce good results. In general, units of the same size will require different electrical requirements.
Example: IR panel 30 amp single phase circuit (average), Quartz 50 amp 3 phase, there are single phase quartz units, however they will require
1/3 larger wire,breakers,etc. unless the blubs are not as powerful to pull the higher amps. In residential electric service is 200 single phase (the highest
normaly available without pulling additional meter), three phase service (not usually available). In residential service you normally, do not pay for electrical
demand. In commercial service you, normally do! Which means the savings with the on/off cycle of the quartz, which on paper, makes total sense. In the
commercial shop will cost more. Because, you are charged by demand. The IR panel although almost always pretty much on/ or cycles less often. If you do
not have a demand charge, that is a different deal. Lucky you! At the end of the day, use what is good for you. Today, alot of screen printers like to have a
one size fits all mentality. Sometimes that works, Most of the time it does not, especially if you shop grows to a larger size. Always look at ALL options.
Happy Printing,
winston
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Which is cheaper to use the IR or the Quartz flash I have both types
Darryl
If you are printing most of the day infrared panel flashing is cheaper to run. If you stop a lot and have a lot of non printing time during the day quartz is cheaper.
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why is quartz out? I would go with a quartz...it will keep your production speed up...I wish i had one....
sam
I only have 100 amp, single phase service at my garage shop. My house has the other 100 amps. I am maxed out electric wise. I also have pool, hot tub, AC, compressor... I currently have an Omni Flash which is 240V/ 1 Phase at 18 amps. Not worried about production speed with the IR flash. Depending on the design my flash dwell is 3-5 seconds which is about my load speed. The only drawback for me with the IR flash is that it can be on for hours at a time. I would like to some how set up the omni flash on the Diamondback. I will measure its width and contact m&r to see if it possible to use with side clamps. The flash is currently being used on my Gauntlet which has front/back clamps. Also everything is electric, gas/propane where i live is not an option, right now.
Peter
Peter
Contact Dave Zimmer in our office @ 800-736-6431. He has a compatability chart on all of our flashes and presses.
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I was at the Indonesian Textile show last week and was surprised the M&R Chilli does not have inbuilt fan.
It was recommended to get the Habanero A/F (air flow) for waterbased printing.
I just want to know if the Habanero A/F is just as fast as the Chilli in flashing Plastisol.
Thanks
Anthony
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I was at the Indonesian Textile show last week and was surprised the M&R Chilli does not have inbuilt fan.
It was recommended to get the Habanero A/F (air flow) for waterbased printing.
I just want to know if the Habanero A/F is just as fast as the Chilli in flashing Plastisol.
Thanks
Anthony
The red Chili does have a fan built into the unit. Both units you state will work about the same on water base.
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Thanks 244.
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i think i need the serrano....lol
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I was at the Indonesian Textile show last week and was surprised the M&R Chilli does not have inbuilt fan.
It was recommended to get the Habanero A/F (air flow) for waterbased printing.
I just want to know if the Habanero A/F is just as fast as the Chilli in flashing Plastisol.
Thanks
Anthony
Should have met up with you. I was there as well!
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If we had 3 phase when we got our DB I would have preferred and still now would love to have a couple Red Chilli's over IR flashing
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I don't know if the heat is a factor to you. The quartz is on or off as it's needed. Seems like the IR would be on a lot more, producing more ambient heat. That was one reason we went quartz. The other reason is that it is in head and we needed that too.
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Once our pallets have been preheated our Red Chili is very fast. I think depending on the color we don't exceed 3 seconds. Probably less. On certain whites I get away with less then a second or have to reduce the power to 75%.
What I really like about the Red Chili is the fact that you can switch off zones. So for left breast we normally only use 1 out of 3 zones, same for small neck prints.