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screen printing => Ink and Chemicals => Topic started by: Shanarchy on February 02, 2012, 07:49:06 PM

Title: navy ink
Post by: Shanarchy on February 02, 2012, 07:49:06 PM
What do you folks use for your navy ink? I have both Union and Rutland. They both seem to be very dark. I finally had a customer complain that I used black ink instead on navy. I told them that is the standard stock navy. I have two different brands and that is how it looks. She was ok with the answer. However, I can't help but to agree with her. It is a little too dark in my opinion. Are all navy inks that dark? Is there a different shade of blue that you use when a customer requests navy?

Title: Re: navy ink
Post by: Frog on February 02, 2012, 08:04:57 PM
Yes, Union Navy is quite dark. Years ago, I came up with a custom mix of half Union navy and half Union royal that many customers opted for when shown the difference.
For the last five or so years, I have been using IC Navy.
Title: Re: navy ink
Post by: blue moon on February 02, 2012, 08:16:58 PM
What do you folks use for your navy ink? I have both Union and Rutland. They both seem to be very dark. I finally had a customer complain that I used black ink instead on navy. I told them that is the standard stock navy. I have two different brands and that is how it looks. She was ok with the answer. However, I can't help but to agree with her. It is a little too dark in my opinion. Are all navy inks that dark? Is there a different shade of blue that you use when a customer requests navy?

we usually explain how dark the Navy is and ask if they would prefer reflex blue. Some switch . . .

There is enough demand for us to stock reflex.

pierre
Title: Re: navy ink
Post by: Gabe on February 02, 2012, 08:30:59 PM
i had the same experience with a client
she wanted navy ink ,when i show her the navy from union
she did not like it
instead i mix a quart of PMS 2747
ever since i use it as a light navy


Title: Re: navy ink
Post by: inkman996 on February 02, 2012, 08:55:38 PM
Willed lite navy, make sure you order lite not normal navy which is almost black. Lite is just perfect.
Title: Re: navy ink
Post by: mk162 on February 02, 2012, 08:57:22 PM
Wilflex Bears Navy...problem solved.  It's close to 1/2 light royal and 1/2 navy.  It's perfect!
Title: Re: navy ink
Post by: Gilligan on February 02, 2012, 09:49:52 PM
Union Ink makes a "Light Navy" that is perfectly acceptable Navy.

That's what I use and that's because I was around when my buddy was complaining about how dark Union regular navy and how he was using light navy from here on.
Title: Re: navy ink
Post by: mk162 on February 02, 2012, 10:03:52 PM
the worst is Port Authority's "classic navy" button downs."  I am too colorblind to see the difference.
Title: Re: navy ink
Post by: inkman996 on February 02, 2012, 10:25:29 PM
the worst is Port Authority's "classic navy" button downs."  I am too colorblind to see the difference.

You aren't kidding there, trust me we have had complaints on them a few times.

Sanmar dumped Columbia which is fine with me, I am really starting to love the Ohio line right now.
Title: Re: navy ink
Post by: mk162 on February 02, 2012, 10:43:37 PM
OGIO, ok, it spell checked Ohio.  Yeah, I had some marketing money left and I got myself a golf bag for free last year.  Sweetness.  Their bags are unbeatable.
Title: Re: navy ink
Post by: Gilligan on February 02, 2012, 11:34:17 PM
the worst is Port Authority's "classic navy" button downs."  I am too colorblind to see the difference.

Yeah, I had a client order some navy of two different brands one for the ladies and one for the mens... I got them in and was like "oh sh1t... they picked them!"  ???
Title: Re: navy ink
Post by: Frog on February 03, 2012, 01:11:42 AM
That's when you need color swatches so that there are no misunderstandings.
Whenever someone orders different brands (or fabrics) it is up to you to remind them that they may not be even close on some colors.
Just the difference between blacks can be startling.
Title: Re: navy ink
Post by: mk162 on February 03, 2012, 07:50:30 AM
I tell people that they black-navy.  I had someone swear up and down that it was black and I kept telling them that it's navy, they didn't believe me until I showed them a black shirt.
Title: Re: navy ink
Post by: inkman996 on February 03, 2012, 08:46:25 AM
That's when you need color swatches so that there are no misunderstandings.
Whenever someone orders different brands (or fabrics) it is up to you to remind them that they may not be even close on some colors.
Just the difference between blacks can be startling.

Unfortunately not all our clients are local and they rely on Web Site catalogs, and online the true navy looks lighter than in person. We know now to warn people which is fine.

OGIO OHIO DOH!
Title: Re: navy ink
Post by: chubsetc on February 03, 2012, 08:58:54 AM
Union Ink makes a "Light Navy" that is perfectly acceptable Navy.

That's what I use and that's because I was around when my buddy was complaining about how dark Union regular navy and how he was using light navy from here on.

I was mixing Union navy with royal for a long time till i recently saw they had the light navy and it works perfect.
Title: Re: navy ink
Post by: mk162 on February 03, 2012, 09:02:08 AM
Ogio shirts are awesome too, but their bags are the bees knees.

The classic navy is supposed to match police uniforms...that is why they have 2 navys.
Title: Re: navy ink
Post by: cattees on February 03, 2012, 10:45:19 AM
the worst is Port Authority's "classic navy" button downs."  I am too colorblind to see the difference.

You aren't kidding there, trust me we have had complaints on them a few times.

Sanmar dumped Columbia which is fine with me, I am really starting to love the Ohio line right now.
I hear that Eddie Bauer is replacing Columbia at SanMar - I wonder how that will work out?
Title: Re: navy ink
Post by: blue moon on February 03, 2012, 12:09:43 PM
Union Ink makes a "Light Navy" that is perfectly acceptable Navy.

That's what I use and that's because I was around when my buddy was complaining about how dark Union regular navy and how he was using light navy from here on.

I was mixing Union navy with royal for a long time till i recently saw they had the light navy and it works perfect.

huh! I am looking at the book and don't see the Light Navy! Which type of ink is it?

pierre
Title: Re: navy ink
Post by: stitches4815 on February 03, 2012, 12:23:25 PM
Union Ink makes a "Light Navy" that is perfectly acceptable Navy.

That's what I use and that's because I was around when my buddy was complaining about how dark Union regular navy and how he was using light navy from here on.

I was mixing Union navy with royal for a long time till i recently saw they had the light navy and it works perfect.

huh! I am looking at the book and don't see the Light Navy! Which type of ink is it?

pierre
Pierre, how old is your book?  They are showing the light navy as "NEW" on their website. 

I made the mistake of buying Union's navy and printing on white.  It did look black.  I showed the customer the container to prove I wasn't bullshi**ing them.
Title: Re: navy ink
Post by: MarielAviles on February 03, 2012, 01:37:24 PM
Wilflex 66100 Bears Navy.
Title: Re: navy ink
Post by: Shanarchy on February 03, 2012, 02:38:52 PM
I think I'm going to mix all my navy ink on the shelf (4 gals total) too lighten it up. I will probably try to color match an ink swatch for what I will be using when this is eventually gone. Good call on the 'light navy' and 'bears navy'. 
Title: Re: navy ink
Post by: chubsetc on February 03, 2012, 08:29:58 PM
Union Ink makes a "Light Navy" that is perfectly acceptable Navy.

That's what I use and that's because I was around when my buddy was complaining about how dark Union regular navy and how he was using light navy from here on.

I was mixing Union navy with royal for a long time till i recently saw they had the light navy and it works perfect.

huh! I am looking at the book and don't see the Light Navy! Which type of ink is it?

pierre

My Union Light Navy is Ultrasoft... PLUS-5048
Title: Re: navy ink
Post by: Frog on February 03, 2012, 08:45:03 PM
Pierre, Union is piss-poor on staying complete and current on their website. Ask them for their "Plastisol Ink Color Guide", though I suspect all is a little transitional with the new formulations and all. Mine is years old and is marked as rev-03, and yes, shows this ink. They've had it for ten years I bet. It's in my 2004 Mixo formula book.
Title: Re: navy ink
Post by: broadway on February 04, 2012, 02:06:54 PM
Wilflex bears navy
Title: Re: navy ink
Post by: Croft on February 13, 2012, 02:24:59 PM
Rutland has LT navy, I have used that for years for schools that want navy>
Title: Re: navy ink
Post by: sweetts on February 13, 2012, 02:42:56 PM
I just used triangle ink very creamy and not too dark

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