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Title: I hate sports teams
Post by: sweetts on February 24, 2012, 07:33:38 AM

So I have been getting away from youth sports teams I find them a pain and this seals the deal for me, I offer a local lacrosse team hoodies shirts and pants per their request and they are clear they need the prices low, so I put together some designs and the Guy is like nope I just want the words no designs that sucked because I made some sweet designs, anyway the money is due next week, I get an email at 2am that they are getting jackets instead with a bad ass lacrosse design from someone else. The design is a stock design that I also offered and the price.....$70.00 errrrrr the Guy said they wanted to offer something more then workout clothes with words on them.....Really I gave you what you asked for!!!! So from today on I am not going after ANY sports team work, burned 4 times with it. The kicker I did work last year for them and they loved it what BS man
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Title: Re: I hate sports teams
Post by: Fresh Baked Printing on February 24, 2012, 08:05:46 AM
It seems that sports teams really are a specialty in itself.  I pass on teams unless it's one color softball tees.  There is plenty of other non-sports team work to keep my press spinning.
Title: Re: I hate sports teams
Post by: mooseman on February 24, 2012, 08:36:18 AM
We tried for several years working with the youth leagues here.
The coaches wait till last minute, can't get anything right, sponsors logos are crap art, and after jumping through burning hoops to get to where you can actually start printing teams the coaches call again to change sizes and colors. Then the parents start calling..my Johnny got no4 from the coach but we really want him to be I mean he wants no 8 can we get it changed and it should not cost any more because you have not made the shirt yet right?

Last year when they called we set them somewhere else NO THANK YOU GOOD LUCK really do not expect to hear from them again ;D.....we are HAPPY with that.
mooseman
Title: Re: I hate sports teams
Post by: IntegrityShirts on February 24, 2012, 09:22:27 AM
Agreed, sports teams jobs are rarely smooth.  Now, booster clubs is where it's at.  Parents raising money by selling gear for teams to show support.  Leave the jersey work and uniforms to the regional supplier to heat press and poly print over buttons lol I'll make the tees and sweats!

Until the booster club wants parent tees with custom name and numbers over 200 pieces ugh that was a long day.
Title: Re: I hate sports teams
Post by: Doug B on February 24, 2012, 09:51:07 AM
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I hate sports teams

                 Me too.
Title: Re: I hate sports teams
Post by: JBLUE on February 24, 2012, 10:00:23 AM
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I hate sports teams

                 Me too.

Me three! I have one that I deal with regularly. They are as organized as my best customer. I wish all of them would be this way. They do a decent volume and dont want it screwed up.

As for all the others I dont even play with them. I let them know up front whats going to happen. If they dont like it then there is the door.

Title: Re: I hate sports teams
Post by: cattees on February 24, 2012, 11:15:43 AM
We usually turn these away too since we are too small to spend so much time on one job.  All those names and numbers drive me nuts and they never get it right anyway.  A few years ago one of my contractor customers asked if I would sponsor his sons' sports team...because he's such a nice guy I agreed.  He said I would get a thank you letter and a picture of the team that I sponsored.  Months went by and I never received anything.  When I asked him he told me his job was just the soliciting, but he passed on my message to the person in charge.  P.S.  Its been 3 years and we never got a thank you, picture of the team or future work & I like it that way!
Title: Re: I hate sports teams
Post by: JayzTeez on February 24, 2012, 11:45:04 AM
i sponsored a tball team and was told i would get a pic of the team and an autographed ball by all the players to display and i never recieved either. 

if it wasn't for sports teams i probably would have to quit.  they make up about 50 percent of my business.
Title: Re: I hate sports teams
Post by: Fresh Baked Printing on February 24, 2012, 11:58:59 AM
i sponsored a tball team and was told i would get a pic of the team and an autographed ball by all the players to display and i never recieved either. 

if it wasn't for sports teams i probably would have to quit.  they make up about 50 percent of my business.

I told the story here before about a basketball team I sponsored (free shirts) and they wanted me to beat another printers price by pennies for a batch of 25 fundraiser shirts they were doing.
Needless to say, trying to save themselves pennies means they lost a few hundred dollars in free sponsor shirts.
Title: Re: I hate sports teams
Post by: sweetts on February 24, 2012, 02:47:04 PM
 So after some figuring they were less the 20% of my profits but were almost 35% of the time I spent working on jobs. I bet I can get a better margin time/profits doing almost any other type of job. It makes me feel better knowing some of you guys flat out don't do the leagues.

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Title: Re: I hate sports teams
Post by: sportsshoppe on February 24, 2012, 03:13:44 PM
i sponsored a tball team and was told i would get a pic of the team and an autographed ball by all the players to display and i never recieved either. 

if it wasn't for sports teams i probably would have to quit.  they make up about 50 percent of my business.
I am with you Jay right now we are getting ready for Youth Baseball and its gonna be crazy for 2 weeks but we need the business so I will not complain.
Title: Re: I hate sports teams
Post by: aauusa on February 24, 2012, 03:34:04 PM
Call me crazy but I love sport teams!!!!!

But we are very used to them and we know from January to October we will be slamming and jamming  with one sport or another.  But if you are not geared for it then it is a pain in the butt.

we do 4-5 teams a week and that is not including leagues.  We have 4 leagues now going through and all are due within 2 weeks of each other  800 in one 300 in 2 others and 150 in another.  17 hr days for last 3 weeks.  got to love it if not then you will hate your life.

Title: Re: I hate sports teams
Post by: sportsshoppe on February 24, 2012, 04:32:20 PM
aauusa you sound like us. We did about 125 youth teams last year in a 3 week span. That is +- 15 players per team and then the parent shirt which is a money item since everyone want little Johnny's jersey ( no harm meant Killer ). So it is a big part of our business but it is very stressful even though its good work. I try to have at least 75 screens ready for burning when we start. I gang or try to gang as much as possible and try my best to match colors. I have an Inline number machine that really gets a work out but without it not near as profitiable.
Title: Re: I hate sports teams
Post by: Gabe on February 24, 2012, 05:35:42 PM
Call me crazy but I love sport teams!!!!!

But we are very used to them and we know from January to October we will be slamming and jamming  with one sport or another.  But if you are not geared for it then it is a pain in the butt.

we do 4-5 teams a week and that is not including leagues.  We have 4 leagues now going through and all are due within 2 weeks of each other  800 in one 300 in 2 others and 150 in another.  17 hr days for last 3 weeks.  got to love it if not then you will hate your life.


I know athletic sport wear is very detail work
when you print the wrong number or something it even becomes personal
gotta get it right 100% of the time  or you hurt some boys or girls feeling
that said, you never know when they going to throw a handsome job on tees or sweats
when you keep the soccer moms or the coach team happy :)
they are the most loyal customers
happy friday cheers 8)
Title: Re: I hate sports teams
Post by: studog on February 25, 2012, 10:53:43 AM
I have tried to get away from the local recreational teams and moved onto the select teams. I have an organization 11 teams every kid gets the same thing, 30k spent. Another has 11 players and has spent over 5k on their uniforms. The other benefit I get is selling of bats and gloves to teams. But parents spirit shirts is a nice extra income. The select parents that are already paying 600.00+ for their kid to play will buy a lot more spirit and expensive stuff.
Title: Re: I hate sports teams
Post by: sweetts on February 25, 2012, 12:33:12 PM
Update the guy called about an hour ago and asked if I wouold still print for them, turns out  the parents were not keen on blowing 70 buck for a jacket,,, errr I am thankful I will be making money but this is just stupid misbehavior on his part and why I hate teams.